[sherkanner]

You don't extrovert an introverted function.

Yes, you do, usually just before farting a rainbow, sign you should stop LSD...

[Abraxas]

Reflecting on my cognitive functions being used at the time I can say that there was most definitely very little feeling involved let alone an amount that would be expected from someone who's auxillary function is extraverted feeling.

This is where I am at.

As I reflect on my cognitive functions being used most of my life, I begin to see that I am actually far more emotional than I ever really was willing to admit to myself because of... well, a lot of issues in my childhood and most of my life that I have failed to confront and just buried inside or repressed in order to soldier on.

This is basically causing me to doubt my type as I begin to unravel what my primary cognitive preference is, either for thinking or feeling. This is either because I am actually a feeler and coming to terms with it - or, conversely, because I am actually a thinker coming to terms with their feelings. I realize this is going to take some time to figure out, so I'm just going to leave my type as INTJ (where it has been the longest) for the sake of continuity to my posting here so that if anyone cares to follow me down the rabbit hole (or already has been), they can do so efficiently.

[luemb]

This is where I am at.

As I reflect on my cognitive functions being used most of my life, I begin to see that I am actually far more emotional than I ever really was willing to admit to myself because of... well, a lot of issues in my childhood and most of my life that I have failed to confront and just buried inside or repressed in order to soldier on.

This is basically causing me to doubt my type as I begin to unravel what my primary cognitive preference is, either for thinking or feeling. This is either because I am actually a feeler and coming to terms with it - or, conversely, because I am actually a thinker coming to terms with their feelings. I realize this is going to take some time to figure out, so I'm just going to leave my type as INTJ (where it has been the longest) for the sake of continuity to my posting here so that if anyone cares to follow me down the rabbit hole (or already has been), they can do so efficiently.

I read your whole post before you edited it down.

I know you said something about being a whole lot more focused other people's feelings. I might have said the same thing about myself a while ago, until I looked more into it. I'm not really interested in what people are feeling, what their personal value-judgements are, but in what sort of thoughts are running through their heads. Those thoughts are often, in my opinion, based on emotional states, like fear, anger, anxiety, nervousness, playfulness, sarcasm, seriousness, stress, happiness ect. I pay attention to these things because they are major, important cues for me to be able to understand what they are thinking, so that I can understand them better. This part of me comes back to being a 9 and being able to see all sides of a situation to increase understanding and maintain peace.

[Abraxas]

I read your whole post before you edited it down.

I know you said something about being a whole lot more focused other people's feelings. I might have said the same thing about myself a while ago, until I looked more into it. I'm not really interested in what people are feeling, what their personal value-judgements are, but in what sort of thoughts are running through their heads. Those thoughts are often, in my opinion, based on emotional states, like fear, anger, anxiety, nervousness, playfulness, sarcasm, seriousness, stress, happiness ect. I pay attention to these things because they are major, important cues for me to be able to understand what they are thinking, so that I can understand them better. This part of me comes back to being a 9 and being able to see all sides of a situation to increase understanding and maintain peace.

An inner voice kind of put it to me suddenly when it said, "learn the difference between trying to reason with your feelings, and feeling reasonable."

And off I go.

[Napoleptic]

An inner voice kind of put it to me suddenly when it said, "learn the difference between trying to reason with your feelings, and feeling reasonable."

And off I go.

Ah, this is what I was trying to get across to you in the Cognitive Function Metaphors thread. You put it very well.

I'm curious, why do you not set your type to unknown? Though I note you said "who" here and not "what":

Why does it matter who I am?

Typology can explain a lot as to *why* we are the way we are, though I think it's giving it too much credit to say it's *who* we are as a whole. I imagine you didn't mean it like that, but I thought it was worth pointing out (probably more to myself than to you ).

[lolthevoidlol]

Ne, in contrast, is easier to follow. Because they exist relative to the external world, and not to the inner world, extroverted functions are naturally compatible and understood by others.

I often get lost trying to follow because my Ni has led me down while their Ne has jumped left.

[Portal]

I'm curious if any INTJ expresses their feelings or emotions ambiguously?

[Einstein]

I'm curious if any INTJ expresses their feelings or emotions ambiguously?

I don't express my feelings or emotions at all.

[Abraxas]

Ah, this is what I was trying to get across to you in the Cognitive Function Metaphors thread. You put it very well.

I'm curious, why do you not set your type to unknown? Though I note you said "who" here and not "what":



Typology can explain a lot as to *why* we are the way we are, though I think it's giving it too much credit to say it's *who* we are as a whole. I imagine you didn't mean it like that, but I thought it was worth pointing out (probably more to myself than to you ).

I'm beyond typology.

The relevance of typology to my identity now is part of a greater pattern I see reflected within all reality. Jung saw it, and it inspired him to create his life's work. His entire work was devoted to the same thing I have seen, the same thing that has been seen a thousand times before by others. It is the essence of so many systems and behaviors in reality, underlying the symmetry within nature that gave rise to mathematics and logic itself - as well as concepts such as 'God' and 'spirits' and even 'meaning' itself. It is the sequence itself, as it is happening.

When I speak of my 'self', I am referring now to a concept so abstract as to be practically meaningless in normal conversation, if you follow what I am hinting at.

So then people might begin to see what purpose I have given to The Quest for 'self-knowledge' that 'I' have undertaken.

[bethdeth]

I'm curious if any INTJ expresses their feelings or emotions ambiguously?

I think I try and make them rational.

For reasons beyond my control I think I like you, perhaps it might be because you seem stable enough to like and you have an interesting ways of expressing yourself which doesn't bore me stupid.


I think anyone who isn't INTJ might think....oh, how mediocre, I'm boring but they like me (a little?). I don't feel special. I'm sure that other INTJs would know the fact that there is an admission plus not being able to control it that it was a substantial statement and it gives clues to how vulnerable they are feeling.

I've never said that above, but I've said similar things, lord demon help me, and wondered why the other party doesn't see how crazy I am about them.


So.....yes and no.