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#1 ·
When I first found out there was a type more rare than my own, I felt threatened. I demand answers at once.

What exactly makes INTJ women so rare?
 
#2 ·
How many female serial killers have you ever heard of?:crazy::crazy:
 
#3 ·
Why? U wanna meet them?

I met a lot of INTJ woman in INTJ Forum
 
#5 ·
What exactly makes INTJ women so rare?
Well, it's probably because most girls are *girly*. You know, they are generally emotional; they find things cute; they do *girl stuff*; think about networking / socializing...etc.
While we INTJ females are more of the *boyish girls*. That whole logic thing; thinking; science; technic; computers; emancipation / independence...that'd be my guess so far.
Maybe somebody has a better theory, though.
 
#7 ·
INTJ female wearing a feminine sport shoes, while ESTJ female wearing a high-heels black boots.

That's all I know, haha... sorry for being unhelpful... :D
 
#8 ·
What exactly makes INTJ women so rare?
I think the tendency for females to prefer F is only part of the story. I think that INTJ females are rare for the same reason that INFJ males are rare. Both have dominant Ni (at least, in MBTI theory). Dominant Ni is a highly uncommon cognitive process, and even as a secondary process, I suspect it is still unusual. This implies that any NJ is a relatively rare type. From there, the correlation between sex and T/F preference and the scarcity of INs are the factors that make the INTJ preference unlikely among women.

Also, just to be certain we're looking at the same source, where are you getting the information on prevalence of type?
 
#11 ·
Thank you for that. I was sure the T was the key component in their being rare, but I never paid much attention to the functions themselves. For what I know, I figured I was the only needle in a haystack and Ni in anyone else was just as common as Se.

Question! Why does it imply that any NJ is a relatively rare type? I can understand the N side of it, but where does the J come into all of this?

I know I've read on websites that said that INTJ women were 0.3 % of the population. But as of now,

INTJ (Strategist) Personality Type - Jungian

is the closest thing I can find. 0.5 %. Aha. Are we looking at the same source?
 
#12 ·
I don't think she meant "boyish" as in burping out loud and wearing baggy clothing while finding high heels and make-up repulsive. I think she meant that INTJ females are not as insecure and emotional as one perceives the average female to be.We are VERY confident with our own abilities, and with ourselves overall .... we don't need anyone else to praise us in arenas we feel possess no merit. I shall give an example...

Male boyfriend says to stereotypical female girlfriend of one year ..."You're ugly. I'm hotter than you.I have dated better looking females"
Stereotypical female reaction..."You bastard" *runs away to cry*

SWITCH!

Male boyfriend says to INTJ girlfriend..."You're ugly. I'm hotter than you.I have dated better looking females"
INTJ female reaction....It might sting her a little at first...but then says..."Hmm...beauty is subjective.You're hotter than me?....well....I'm smarter than you.You've dated better looking females? Good for you.Congrats.Hmmm....remind me why I started dating you?":dry:
 
#14 ·
Not all INTJ females are as "boyish" as you may think. For example, I am an INTJ, but i easily put on a facade to cover up who I really am (partly in place to mess with peoples minds). Plus it may be the fact that most girls are emotional and less likely to be "thinking". Perhaps that is because of the norms set out by society that almost demands that women are "girly" and emotional. From personal experience, I can still be girly and love frilly and pink things, and at the same time study calculus and physics.
 
#19 ·
Because INTJ girls are too awesome to keep in large numbers. They can take a hit and aren't too fussy about thigns going wrong, although they typically ensure that things go right. INT girls can be either really frightening, or really awesome. INTP girls, when they're mature, are really incredible. They don't need to be cared for like an M-16.
 
#23 ·
If all four of your sides are equal, I hope you've got your dancing shoes on because we'll rhombus until the break of dawn! Otherwise, I'll get a girl to help out and we'll diagnally bisect you all night long.

Math puns. Don't try this at home, kids.
 
#25 ·
i sometimes get INTJ when i take the quiz, so im on the line between intj and intp. i think that intj/p women are rare because most girls end up getting sucked into aesthetic lifestyles. girls are naturally drawn to find acceptance and , well, a companion. so they end up thinking more about people than about science and other things. i dont. i think my companion will show up and catch my interest, i have no doubt. and unless they can understand and take intrerest in every little logical thing i have to say about anything that captures my mind, i'm not interseted in them. :) the world would be a better place with more int women. ;D! also because i have a minimal amount of girl friends...... it sucks. the things girls talk about kills me. such pointless lives they dont realize they live. just an opinionnn.
 
#27 ·
man i spelled interested wrong multiple times. haha i dont know if nerds know anything about me anyway. i was pretty to myself in hs so i didn't talk to much about my theories and thoughts unless they were close friends. but i'm an intp of course.
 
#28 ·
I'm surprised I didn't see this immediately in this thread, but the fact is INTJ qualities are just less socially acceptable in women. It's ok for men to be so intellectually involved so as to be a bit obtuse, but I think women are often expected to be bit more cooperative and emotionally aware. We all have to adapt to the expectations in our social environment, and I'm guessing that a lot of women that would otherwise be INTJs just have those qualities trained out, muted, or replaced in order to make life a little less frustrating.
 
#149 ·
I'm surprised I didn't see this immediately in this thread, but the fact is INTJ qualities are just less socially acceptable in women. It's ok for men to be so intellectually involved so as to be a bit obtuse, but I think women are often expected to be bit more cooperative and emotionally aware. We all have to adapt to the expectations in our social environment, and I'm guessing that a lot of women that would otherwise be INTJs just have those qualities trained out, muted, or replaced in order to make life a little less frustrating.
^ ^ ^ ^ this exactly sums up my first reaction to the question. Girls are expected to play well with others and think with their hearts (thank you, Disney... though of course, hormones as a contributing factor can never be overlooked...). Huge, huge societal pressure to "fit in," and as an INTJ female, that means switching some letters =P
 
#29 ·
thats a sad observation/thought
 
#30 ·
The problem I have with the social acceptance theory is that it doesn't really explain why INTJ women are more rare than INTP women. Both prefer a measure of isolation and are intellectual. Both are independent and analytical, abstract thinkers with more regard for logical than emotive reasoning. These are all things that social norms dictate that women should not be. So why is one more rare than the other?
 
#39 ·
J's are decisive. P's tend to be more flexible. It's more acceptable for a woman to be intelligent yet flexible and open to suggestions than to be intelligent and firm in her decisions. I hate it that women are labeled the "b" word, but that's what women who are logical and decisive get named. not to mention that fact from an earlier thread that we don't smile alot when we're doing menial tasks or just in general.
*I think little do other people know that underneath our poker face is a sense of humor many would be surprised that we have.

on the enneagram, I think that TJ tritype corresponds to one of the head group (5,6,7) with type 1 (from the gut group) and whatever # from the heart group. most people I've seen in the intj group are 5's (over which I am rejoicing)- perhaps the 5>1>x combo is rare?
 
#37 ·
As I mentioned, NJs are always less common than their NP counterparts. There are fewer INTJs, of either sex, than INTPs, there are fewer ENFJs than ENFPs, etc. This seems to point to the strong Ni function being a rather uncommon feature in people, but the question is, why?

they're both rare. i think it is all just by chance. but hey wouldn't be an int if we werent splitting hairs right? heh. and i think its a veryyy good point that we ,as int women, DO need to "tame ourselves" to fit in better with society. it's VERY frustrating, but it tends to be a need rather than a choice.
1. I was afraid someone would say "It's just chance." Perhaps it is, but the fact that I see NJs are generally a smaller population than NPs seems to suggest it's more than mere chance. Anyway, the reason I'm picking at that is that this thread is about the rarity of INTJ women, and I don't think I've seen any suggestions that are specific to INTJs. Rather, the ideas put forth seem to be, at worst, applicable to any NT female, and at best, applicable to both INTX females.

2. The fact that it is a "mandate" to "tame ourselves" is precisely why I resist. I tend to go along with something more often if I'm allowed to choose whether or not to do so, but the moment someone insists that I do something, there is an immediate impulse to rebel. People need to see that it's not a bad thing to be an INTX female.
 
#32 ·
I'm an INTP, but my P can be very weak because I am very much fond of order and planning. The thing that defines me as a P is merely the fact that I am very lazy, typical of an INTP. INT's in general, male or female, I think are more inclined to be very lazy. It may be brain structure as someone else has suggested, but my theory is that INT's tend to be much more intelligent than others, and probably realised as children that they can achieve more than others by putting even less effort, and so we grow up lazy as a result of not having to do much at all.
 
#34 ·
they're both rare. i think it is all just by chance. but hey wouldn't be an int if we werent splitting hairs right? heh. and i think its a veryyy good point that we ,as int women, DO need to "tame ourselves" to fit in better with society. it's VERY frustrating, but it tends to be a need rather than a choice.
 
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