The (stream of conscious?) venting thread for INTJ.

**javier** · 02-09-2012 03:09 AM

**Cetanu** · 02-09-2012 03:27 AM

I love math. It's the first thing I wake up to every day. My alarm clock makes me do math until it shuts up :D

**Blue Ocean** · 02-09-2012 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by Napoleptic

I see this a lot, and I think what happens is we tend to forget that the depth of sadness for someone's passing (and even less the outward expression of it) is not a direct measure of the depth of our love for them.

Reading this just turned me to mush

**Napoleptic** · 02-09-2012 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by Vasili Syrakis

I love math. It's the first thing I wake up to every day. My alarm clock makes me do math until it shuts up :D

I use a similar app on my phone in an attempt to make me wake up enough to get out of bed. Doesn't work, although my calculation speed has increased and I can actually add two two-digit numbers without having to get a piece of paper (my mom gives me grief about this, but I can't spell in my head most of the time so I don't know why she finds it surprising I can't do math since I'm much worse at it).

Originally Posted by Blue Ocean

Reading this just turned me to mush

Why mush? That seems like an odd response.

**Blue Ocean** · 02-09-2012 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Napoleptic

Why mush? That seems like an odd response.

An odd response from an odd person - they cancel out ;)

I guess it was because I was like 'wow, that's exactly how I feel at times but I've never been able to verbalise it quite as effectively as that'. Doesn't just apply to death, but also other emotions I tend to feel. Just because it's not shown and I don't like to make it into a big drama doesn't mean I'm not deeply affected at the core, maybe more than others who appear to be upset on the outside.

When someone gets inside my mind and is able to explain things like that elegantly when I can't, I feel, well, a bit naked and

**Napoleptic** · 02-09-2012 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Blue Ocean

An odd response from an odd person - they cancel out ;)

I guess it was because I was like 'wow, that's exactly how I feel at times but I've never been able to verbalise it quite as effectively as that'. Doesn't just apply to death, but also other emotions I tend to feel. Just because it's not shown and I don't like to make it into a big drama doesn't mean I'm not deeply affected at the core, maybe more than others who appear to be upset on the outside.

I'm guessing from the number of thanks the post got that you're not alone. @Svidrigailov once said something that's stuck with me - lack of emotional expression is not the same as lack of emotion, or something like that about the disconnect between our internal emotions and the outward expression of them. What @MeMyselfandI said reminded me of it, and my statement sort of spiraled off from that.

I imagine if people could learn to accept that disconnect and recognize when someone isn't expressing emotion vs. just not feeling it, we'd probably all be a lot healthier for it. It'd be particularly nice if the people who think particular feelings are "appropriate" or "inappropriate" for a situation (which is usually based on what they would feel in that situation) understood that. I don't remember the precise wording, but @Stephen once phrased something quite nicely about how emotions aren't good or bad - they just are; it's how we react or respond to them that is good or bad. (Feel free to correct me, Stephen.)

Er, segue check.

Originally Posted by Blue Ocean

When someone gets inside my mind and is able to explain things like that elegantly when I can't, I feel, well, a bit naked and

Jeez, put some clothes on and quit flashing the forum!