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#1 ·
So I found this in the INFP section and thought it would be useful for my fellow INTJS. Courtesy of Nova.

Take issue with something going on in society?

Having a bad day?

Have something on your mind that wont go away?

Experience something so fabulous you just have to express it?


Post your vent here!



+ And a friendly reminder to please be respectful to other members and leave your baggage at the door.
 
#18,821 ·
A hammer is a hammer by virtue of it's function, which is a thing designed to drive nails into wood. Anything in the universe, or conceivable, which can perform this function better than anything else, would therefore be the best possible hammer, objectively.
What makes a hammer a hammer? A hammer is a hammer because it does what hammers do. The function of the hammer is what defines "hammer". Anything which can perform that function IS a hammer. However, some things are better at hammering. Those things are better hammers.
Like for instance, I walk up to you wielding some odd tool and say, "this is a hammer." Well, there are many things which can be called hammers, so how well does it perform hammering by comparison? If it performs better, then it IS better than those other hammers. And if it performs worse, then it IS worse than those other hammers.
You sure like to hammer home your hammer points.
 
#18,823 ·




You sure like to hammer home your hammer points.
Because it makes it perfectly clear what I'm saying, yet apparently even still it isn't clear enough since people want to create straw men and argue against things I didn't say, or argue over basic ontology.

At this point I think I'm just being trolled, since people want to come up with the most blatantly ridiculous counter-points that are based on claims that are definitively false, so I'm not even interested in continuing the discussion.

Furthermore, this seems to happen EVERY fucking time I have anything to say in this thread. I couldn't even count or list the number of posts made in this thread that are leagues beyond retarded by comparison to anything I have to say - and they get totally ignored. Frankly, I'm starting to think it's a personal vendetta certain members have against me.
 
#18,824 ·
Because it makes it perfectly clear what I'm saying, yet apparently even still it isn't clear enough since people want to create straw men and argue against things I didn't say, or argue over basic ontology.

At this point I think I'm just being trolled, since people want to come up with the most blatantly ridiculous counter-points that are based on claims that are definitively false, so I'm not even interested in continuing the discussion.

Furthermore, this seems to happen EVERY fucking time I have anything to say in this thread. I couldn't even count or list the number of posts made in this thread that are leagues beyond retarded by comparison to anything I have to say - and they get totally ignored. Frankly, I'm starting to think it's a personal vendetta certain members have against me.
Don't let that ego get too big, I can assure you that you aren't that important (at least not to me). Crazy as it seems, it might just be that people just don't agree with what you are saying.
 
#18,825 ·
I got a new puppy (10 weeks old) a week ago. Why on earth did I pay $2000 for a puppy? What the hell was I thinking? Why did I do this to myself? SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME THAT THIS WILL GET BETTER. I am so over this puppy. Most pee-filled week EVER. I cannot wait - I cannot fucking wait until this puppy grows up. He will get better right? He'll be able to integrate into the household and I'll be able to trust him and everything, right? Right?! I never thought of myself as a perfectionist but I am so worried that I will screw this dog up. Also: people have to be fucking INSANE to not use a crate/xpen when raising a puppy. Why the hell do people like puppies?! I don't get it. I don't get the people who get puppies and then dump them at shelters when they grow up. Not just because that's a shitty thing to do but puppies are annoying little shits! Who the hell would prefer a puppy that pees fucking everywhere over a grown dog? Maybe because these are also the kind of people who can't raise a dog right so by the time the puppy grows up it's no longer manageable. Ugh.

I JUST WANT TO FAST FORWARD TIME TO WHEN THE PUPPY IS GROWN UP AND WELL BEHAVED AND NOT ACTUALLY HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THIS.

Seriously, I am never raising another puppy. Guide dog puppy raising is OUT.
And because I can't not find a silver lining: at least New Pet Stress has abated.
 
#18,826 ·
I got a new puppy (10 weeks old) a week ago. Why on earth did I pay $2000 for a puppy? What the hell was I thinking? Why did I do this to myself? SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME THAT THIS WILL GET BETTER. I am so over this puppy. Most pee-filled week EVER. I cannot wait - I cannot fucking wait until this puppy grows up. He will get better right? He'll be able to integrate into the household and I'll be able to trust him and everything, right? Right?! I never thought of myself as a perfectionist but I am so worried that I will screw this dog up. Also: people have to be fucking INSANE to not use a crate/xpen when raising a puppy. Why the hell do people like puppies?! I don't get it. I don't get the people who get puppies and then dump them at shelters when they grow up. Not just because that's a shitty thing to do but puppies are annoying little shits! Who the hell would prefer a puppy that pees fucking everywhere over a grown dog? Maybe because these are also the kind of people who can't raise a dog right so by the time the puppy grows up it's no longer manageable. Ugh.

I JUST WANT TO FAST FORWARD TIME TO WHEN THE PUPPY IS GROWN UP AND WELL BEHAVED AND NOT ACTUALLY HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH THIS.

Seriously, I am never raising another puppy. Guide dog puppy raising is OUT.
And because I can't not find a silver lining: at least New Pet Stress has abated.
I got a Labrador at 8 months after the owners finally gave out and resented the shit out of the bundle of tightly wound ball of rubber bands kept on enthusiastically knocking them down and chewing through absolutely everything. She was dumped on me pretty much.

It took me another two years of destruction, patience and training before I could come to the stage where I say she's good company. I wished for ages that they could have trained her just a little but that really would have defeated the purpose. Heh. She's a joy most of the time.

All I can say is that if it's a Lab then you might want to keep electric cords well away and put the time in now.

Good luck.
 
#18,831 ·
Tried to drink coffee again today (I have a theory it will trigger my circulation if I have one cup in the morning, then I'll stop feeling awful and tired all the time), but I really don't like it. At all. Anyone know any good alternatives of caffeine?
Mate (beverage) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe combining it with a trip to Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and/or the southern states of Brazil! Otherwise I've only come across it in Syria.

What kind of nut job puts sugar in tea? :shocked:
I remember BIG, black mamas in sub-Saharan Africa putting not tea-spoonful, not a spoonful, but several spoonful of sugar in a mug of tea. But then, if you pay per mug of tea and not per spoonful of sugar...





You sure like to hammer home your hammer points.
Hammer-time!


I got a new puppy (10 weeks old) a week ago. Why on earth did I pay $2000 for a puppy?
I hope for your sake that you bought the dog in Guyana.
 
#18,834 ·
I'm just amazed that despite the fact of me expecting nothing from the people around me they still manage to disappoint me. People are assholes and expecting a little decency of them is a wishful thinking to say the least.
Same... that's why I need to meet new and better people, even if it's just one. I just can't relate to 99% of people my age - while they're out talking about parties and drinking and "getting girls", I'm learning about science and the world and developing plans of action.

Wouldn't trade that for anything.
 
#18,836 ·
Sincerely, fuck moving. I want to pack a nice neat bag of stuff I need, shove it in the car, and leave this packing of bullshit behind. I've made more trips to the Salvation Army bins than actually moving.
That's pretty much what I've settled on doing for now. Computer, clothes, bedding, toiletries and my car will go with me, everything else will be stored until I know where I'll be working (and therefore living).

It doesn't make things easier that I've been a packrat most of my life. But between a recent garage sale and city-wide haul-off day and moving three times in the last three years, I've thrown away easily half the things I own. I regret nothing, and I'll be doing more of the same over the next two weeks. I'll likely never be a minimalist like I would prefer (curse you, self-pres instinct), but I vow to never be this burdened again.
 
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#18,837 ·
That's pretty much what I've settled on doing for now. Computer, clothes, bedding, toiletries and my car will go with me, everything else will be stored until I know where I'll be working (and therefore living).

It doesn't make things easier that I've been a packrat most of my life. But between a recent garage sale and city-wide haul-off day and moving three times in the last three years, I've thrown away easily half the things I own. I regret nothing, and I'll be doing more of the same over the next two weeks. I'll likely never be a minimalist like I would prefer (curse you, self-pres instinct), but I vow to never be this burdened again.
It's worse if it's not you that is the pack rat, but your spouse. Tense negotiations take place before anything is tossed. And even then, I'll find him digging in the trash to pull a treasure back out.

I solved it by vowing never to move again.
 
#18,838 ·
It's worse if it's not you that is the pack rat, but your spouse. Tense negotiations take place before anything is tossed. And even then, I'll find him digging in the trash to pull a treasure back out.

I solved it by vowing never to move again.
If only I could never move again...

I actually think this is the worst part of it, knowing I'll have to do it all over again, and likely multiple times at that.
 
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#18,839 ·
Because it makes it perfectly clear what I'm saying, yet apparently even still it isn't clear enough since people want to create straw men and argue against things I didn't say, or argue over basic ontology.

At this point I think I'm just being trolled, since people want to come up with the most blatantly ridiculous counter-points that are based on claims that are definitively false, so I'm not even interested in continuing the discussion.

Furthermore, this seems to happen EVERY fucking time I have anything to say in this thread. I couldn't even count or list the number of posts made in this thread that are leagues beyond retarded by comparison to anything I have to say - and they get totally ignored. Frankly, I'm starting to think it's a personal vendetta certain members have against me.
You mean you don't get a kick out of that? XP
 
#18,840 ·
Same... that's why I need to meet new and better people, even if it's just one. I just can't relate to 99% of people my age - while they're out talking about parties and drinking and "getting girls", I'm learning about science and the world and developing plans of action.

Wouldn't trade that for anything.
Glad to know I'm not the only one. I don't understand people my own age, let alone understand other girls ,especially ones my own age. I don't do my hair up (pony-tails and leaving it down is good enough for me) I don't wear make-up (waste of time) and I am hardly trendy or anything close to fashionable. My husband lets me know if something doesn't match, but without him I'd commit so many fashion crimes I wouldn't care. I have a shirt, pants, and socks; what more do you want? (I swear, the next person who tries to get me to go out on a 'girls day' to be all dolled up will be punched in the face...or ignored for the rest of their existance...or both.)

Give me science, puzzles, a new book, a problem, good video game, etc. I have given up on people as a whole. I've found a few gems, but not a lot. I wouldn't trade it either. I feel like I get a lot more done in a day because I don't bother with these things I am told a woman is 'supposed' to do. And the fact I'm a mother now? Oh, the things I can't wait to do and teach my boy.

I expect to be called to the Principal's office quite often. Looking forward to it.
 
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