[Einsteinette]

I wish I had a tail. I wish I was a cat actually. Have you ever just watched a cat? Cats are so laid back it's OFFENSIVE.

Seriously though, you're right. In fact, I'm way ahead of you. I just jumped into the shower and spent about 30 minutes relaxing in it, and now I'm going to go for a thirty minute walk down to the grocery to pick up something to snack on and a soda or something.

The thing is, I can't shut off my brain once it gets obsessed with something. I have to know it. I have to solve it. I'm driven to conclusions with such veracity that I almost hate thinking. While I was in the shower, my intuition was feeding me a shitstorm of associations and suggestions, but the one thing I tried to focus on most of all was that it felt draining to me. Behind all the brainstorming and mulling it over is this bedrock desire for an answer. The intuiting process, to me, feels like a burden when it gets drawn out and seems to be going nowhere. In fact, I dislike it so much that I'll just go, "fuck it, it's this one" and just pick something almost out of spite.

I probably am an ENTJ. If that's the case, my shadow is INTP, so maybe that's why I thought I might be an INTP? Anyway. SEE? CAN'T FIGHT... NI. HRRGGGNNN... NIIII...

Imagine you have this invisible spectre following you just over your shoulder, and right when you think you have something figured out and you're like, "Okay... I think I got this--" it whispers into your ear the most damned thing, totally throwing you for a spin, and you're like, "... SERIOUSLY? REALLY? REALLY NI? I will CUT YOU."

Exactly! sometimes I feel like I need to shut my brain down not because It needs to rest but because It's working with such speed/power that I can't keep up with it !

[Abraxas]

Believe it or not there was a stage in my life where I could have been almost a twin and just confused as shit. I don't think it's the I/E. I think that you are at odds with yourself. No better way to describe it. Has there been any trauma to cause this? Many? In my case I did have early teen trauma (exactly the same age and event as @lolthevoidlol). Confusion simply has to come out of it in one form or another. I blamed myself for events in one aspect then I blamed everyone else for letting it happen until I just got on with shit. At such an early age just getting on with shit while developing can sort of skew and make us question more instead of just sitting it out.

I hope this doesn't come off as offensive and condescending. Sometimes you need to just step back and say you're alright....

No, it's fine.

The trauma is hard to say. I know as a kid I cried a lot, and when I was seven I just wanted to die. My mom did a lot of drugs and never wanted to grow up. She blamed me for everything, and we fought every day. She married abusive husbands who beat the shit out of her and came home drunk a lot, and would beat me occasionally. I'm sure that probably created some mental scars or instability of some sort, but I don't think I'm that out of the ordinary (unfortunately). Just some repressed anger and subconscious self-esteem issues.

I know I use Ni. That, absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt. I know it because I realize it's probably the source of all my doubting. I mean, that's what Ni does. It generates possibilities. It's not going to point at an answer and say, "here, this is the right answer." It's not a judging function. It's whole entire purpose is to show you what could be not what is. So, if I'm thinking about something, it's just going to go on and on and on forever if I don't make a decision.

Maybe I'm an INTJ then? Maybe I have it backwards. Maybe it's not the thinking that drains me, but having to make a choice that drains me. If I look at it that way, then it would be something like me contemplating a decision, with Ni going, 'Well, it could be this this or this, and if it's that, then that could mean this and this and this, and that and that are kind of like this and this, and so that might imply this and this--" and I'm like, '"Holy shit, seriously? Okay, Te, which one is it?" And Te is like, "It's this one." And Ni gets all offended, eyes go wide, pupils dilate, and it's like, "Bullshit, what makes it that? It could be this this this this this this this this and this also." Te: "Alright, then it's this one." Ni: "BRO, it could be these also." Te: "...Yeah, except it's this one. Here's why." Ni: "That's bullshit. Here's why." Te: "Yeah, except that's bullshit. Here's why." Ni: "NO U!"

TL;DR, holy shit, my Ni and Te are fucking trolling each other. I don't know whether that's awesome or fucking ridiculous. More importantly, I don't know which one I like better.

[bethdeth]

No, it's fine.

The trauma is hard to say. I know as a kid I cried a lot, and when I was seven I just wanted to die. My mom did a lot of drugs and never wanted to grow up. She blamed me for everything, and we fought every day. She married abusive husbands who beat the shit out of her and came home drunk a lot, and would beat me occasionally. I'm sure that probably created some mental scars or instability of some sort, but I don't think I'm that out of the ordinary (unfortunately). Just some repressed anger and subconscious self-esteem issues.

I know I use Ni. That, absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt. I know it because I realize it's probably the source of all my doubting. I mean, that's what Ni does. It generates possibilities. It's not going to point at an answer and say, "here, this is the right answer." It's not a judging function. It's whole entire purpose is to show you what could be not what is. So, if I'm thinking about something, it's just going to go on and on and on forever if I don't make a decision.

Maybe I'm an INTJ then? Maybe I have it backwards. Maybe it's not the thinking that drains me, but having to make a choice that drains me. If I look at it that way, then it would be something like me contemplating a decision, with Ni going, 'Well, it could be this this or this, and if it's that, then that could mean this and this and this, and that and that are kind of like this and this, and so that might imply this and this--" and I'm like, '"Holy shit, seriously? Okay, Te, which one is it?" And Te is like, "It's this one." And Ni gets all offended, eyes go wide, pupils dilate, and it's like, "Bullshit, what makes it that? It could be this this this this this this this this and this also." Te: "Alright, then it's this one." Ni: "BRO, it could be these also." Te: "...Yeah, except it's this one. Here's why." Ni: "That's bullshit. Here's why." Te: "Yeah, except that's bullshit. Here's why." Ni: "NO U!"

TL;DR, holy shit, my Ni and Te are fucking trolling each other. I don't know whether that's awesome or fucking ridiculous. More importantly, I don't know which one I like better.

You got it. INTJ but at odds with self. Take time to enjoy the feel of an old velvet hat, the smell of the sea, staring at your toes. and Zen stuff....

It might help you focus?

[Abraxas]

You got it. INTJ but at odds with self. Take time to enjoy the feel of an old velvet hat, the smell of the sea, staring at your toes. and Zen stuff....

It might help you focus?

I'm going to chase my cat with a laser pointer while listening to disco.

Tee-hee.

[Codger]

Exactly! sometimes I feel like I need to shut my brain down not because It needs to rest but because It's working with such speed/power that I can't keep up with it !

I get that at work all the time, my subconscious is aware of the solution to a problem and the conscious mind is having to catch up and articulate it.

[Thorgar]

Take time to enjoy the feel of an old velvet hat, the smell of the sea, staring at your toes. and Zen stuff....

It might help you focus?

This is kind of random, but I recall reading somewhere that focusing on Se type activities (like mentioned above) will calm an INTJ. So does that mean Fi type activities will calm an ENTJ, or is that a false analogy?

[Codger]

This is kind of random, but I recall reading somewhere that focusing on Se type activities (like mentioned above) will calm an INTJ. So does that mean Fi type activities will calm an ENTJ, or is that a false analogy?

I don't bother overthinking all this function malarkey, but I can say for certain that the sort of stuff beth mentioned works for me. Disconnecting my brain from all the stuff in the world, and focusing on the little things, is incredibly soothing

[bethdeth]

This is kind of random, but I recall reading somewhere that focusing on Se type activities (like mentioned above) will calm an INTJ. So does that mean Fi type activities will calm an ENTJ, or is that a false analogy?

I actually wondered the same thing as I was writing it. I have always said that having an ESFP best friend rocks because they just love the sensation of the moment. I fucking LOOOOOOVE that velvet hat! Geezuz! Can you smell that surf? Incredible! Wow! My toes look like aliens check 'em out! They use Se first. I know it works for me. To go to a place like a beach I love to just sit there and take in the sand and the smell and not think. To make my living area as comfortable as possible. To enshrine myself with a peaceful haven. I thought it may have been a 9 thing (peace seeking and retreating) but there is the sensation aspect there as well.

[CarenRose]

This is kind of random, but I recall reading somewhere that focusing on Se type activities (like mentioned above) will calm an INTJ. So does that mean Fi type activities will calm an ENTJ, or is that a false analogy?

Someone mentioned at some point (ha, I don't remember when/who) that they have different 'zones' that are mutually exclusive. If they are in the Ni zone, basically, they have Se 'switched off' but can be forcefully brought out of the zone with unwanted senory input. Likewise in their Se zone they can focus on their surroundings but their Ni has to be 'switched off' ...
Well, that's not exactly what they said but that's what I got out of it.

If you're going crazy with Ni-ness that's not being productive but is being stressful, it can be a good break to shift your focus from internal thoughts to something external like that ... and since it's our inferior function it does take focus rather than just being passive ...

Am I rambling now? I think I am.

We should ask the ENTJs if they watch sad movies to calm down, lol :D

[Faklubrejle]

Y'all likely read it here (about the use of Se to fight Ni that bothers you). Coonsy's and my posts.