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This is a discussion on The (stream of conscious?) venting thread for INTJ. within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by sherkanner You, yes, you, I hate you with the fiery passion of a thousand sun... I wish ...
I'm kinda depressed today but i don't know why... I just want this day to be over so I can go back to my bed, I wish I could sleep forever *groan*
My best friend is moving.
We had that special INTJ & ENFP friendship.. I'm really going to miss her.
(3:00:28 PM) John Conlin: And I apologize
(3:01:36 PM) John Conlin: I didn't meant to offend you
(3:06:58 PM) Janus Meyrink: For what?
(3:07:26 PM) John Conlin: The other day when I had to let you go in the middle of what you were talking about. I'm sorry I cut you off.
(3:07:44 PM) Janus Meyrink: Oh wow, you remember that?
(3:08:10 PM) Janus Meyrink: Yeah that sucked. I didn't blame you though, that would be silly.
(3:08:14 PM) John Conlin: Yeah, it happened yesterday
(3:08:37 PM) John Conlin: well, I asked if I could call and you said "What about" Which you never say, so I assumed you were still upset.
(3:09:00 PM) Janus Meyrink: No, actually it just made me realize that we should discuss topics we both find engaging.
(3:09:01 PM) John Conlin: I was going to apologize over the phone, but I guess this works too
(3:09:36 PM) Janus Meyrink: Instead of taking turns with topics neither person likes much.
(3:09:53 PM) John Conlin: examples?
(3:11:35 PM) Janus Meyrink: Well, of course it also depends on the mood, you might start on one topic and find the other person unresponsive to that subject so you segue into something related that perhaps they might rather talk about instead, never pinned to a particular topic that personally interests you, leaving the discussion free to go wherever the other person takes it, but then if they begin on a topic you don't find interesting you just try and direct the topic onto some other topic that's not a previous topic - something new again, until you find a topic of mutual interest.
(3:12:02 PM) John Conlin: Seems like that's usually what we do
(3:13:59 PM) Janus Meyrink: Well, to be honest, usually it ends up being me just listening for awhile, waiting for you to finish talking about whatever you wanted, and I assume the reverse is true from your end when I start talking about things that don't interest you. Out of respect, we basically just endure it.
(3:14:17 PM) John Conlin: sometimes, yeah
(3:14:34 PM) Janus Meyrink: Well, I'm simply suggesting that we don't have to continue that pattern necessarily.
(3:14:38 PM) Janus Meyrink: We can meta out of it.
(3:14:47 PM) John Conlin: hmmm
(3:14:50 PM) John Conlin: I like that idea
(3:15:45 PM) Janus Meyrink: Okay, well, then just interrupt me and flat out state that you don't find a topic interesting right now, and enter into an agreement that you expect me to do the same, in a totally respectful way - that is to say, devoid of any slight or sign of negativity in the expression.
(3:16:01 PM) Janus Meyrink: That way, it is just a civil rejection and we can move on to broach another subject.
(3:16:06 PM) John Conlin: okay
(3:16:09 PM) John Conlin: I will sign this pact
(3:16:18 PM) John Conlin: for great justice
(3:16:23 PM) Janus Meyrink: Like, other humans will watch us talking and think "holy shit those two are so rude to each other"
(3:16:34 PM) Janus Meyrink: because we're like "No, I don't want to talk about that."
(3:16:37 PM) Janus Meyrink: And I'm like 'Fine."
(3:16:41 PM) Janus Meyrink: And we just don't talk about it
(3:16:57 PM) Janus Meyrink: And I'm doing the same thing to you
(3:17:01 PM) Janus Meyrink: And you're like "Fine."
(3:17:10 PM) Janus Meyrink: And we just keep doing that until we get to a topic we both find interesting
(3:17:23 PM) Janus Meyrink: Like we're just flipping pages of a catalog
(3:17:51 PM) Janus Meyrink: Super efficient human interaction is super efficient, John unit.
(3:18:39 PM) John Conlin: Yes, Ben unit.
(3:18:42 PM) John Conlin: Affirmative.