[Green Girl]

The easiest way to win an argument with anyone is to make it look like you agree with what they are saying, but then you synthesize something new into their argument that they would otherwise openly dispute, and while you pump them up and admire them for their conception, they will unknowingly admit whatever you want. In fact, this can be used later to trap them into their own declarations, thus weakening their resolve, even in themselves, to continue debating.

That is going too far. You do not want to make the other person feel too out-witted. They must believe themselves on the same level, and that they are in fact winning, and that it only requires the slightest effort from them to keep the debating going, for as you begin to weave your own words into whatever they are saying, you must expect to meet some sub-conscious resistance. This can even occur within yourself, and can lead to doubt and indecision over the morality of your own behavior.

You must remember that the goal is precision. In the end, you are being subversive in order to avoid subversion itself. It is like a vaccine. You introduce a benign form of the disease into the body, one that produces only some of the symptoms without replicating it entirely, in order to help the body to formulate an immunity to it in the future, should it ever encounter it again.



... This is the dark and blasphemous wisdom of your shadow.

Go forth and manipulate reality.

Heh, you know my guilty secret. I use this approach frequently with unreasonable people. If you do it right, both people go away happy. They're happy because they think they won the argument. I'm happy to let them think that, and because I got what I wanted.

[lolthevoidlol]

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[luemb]

This thread is good. It made me think about my own maturity, and how the fact that I'm not a very silly person or very outgoing doesn't make me a lot of friends. For some reason I thought I had to become one of those people. That's completely wrong. I'd rather have the mature role anyhow, and just be friendly and helpful when I can. It might make me seem aloof, or arrogant, or unfriendly, or cold on first meeting, but to devalue myself by reducing my maturity levels just to fit in, to make other people feel more comfortable with their own immaturity... wow it sounds stupid writing it out.

[FlaylexFayte]

Mom: Alcatraz is on Demand, but not the episode that we missed.
(NASCAR took the spot of Alcatraz, so Alcatraz didn't show last week)
Mom: I think what they're gonna do is show the episode that we missed next week, so we really didn't miss it.
Me: That's what I said.
Mom: When did you say that?
Me: Last night.
Mom: I didn't hear you say anything about On Demand last night.
Me: I know. But I DID say that usually if they give the time spot to another show, they show the episode on the NEXT week. So we didn't miss it.
Mom: BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ON DEMAND!



SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT IS GOING ON IN HER HEAD. Please. Because I really don't understand it and I imagine it's just some sort of incessant buzzing noise, blocking out her thought processes.

[Zinerith]

This girl obviously likes me and keeps doing things to get me to ask her out, as well as other people trying to get me to. D: I haven't even analyzed her enough to KNOW how i feel! DDDDD:

Thankfully situations have caused me to tell her that I wasn't looking for relationships. Though indirect, at least it gave me a ton of breathing room. Now I'm not freaked out anymore

[Einsteinette]

This thread is good. It made me think about my own maturity, and how the fact that I'm not a very silly person or very outgoing doesn't make me a lot of friends. For some reason I thought I had to become one of those people. That's completely wrong. I'd rather have the mature role anyhow, and just be friendly and helpful when I can. It might make me seem aloof, or arrogant, or unfriendly, or cold on first meeting, but to devalue myself by reducing my maturity levels just to fit in, to make other people feel more comfortable with their own immaturity... wow it sounds stupid writing it out.

yeah I've already made the same conclusion. People see me as a dull and too serious person , I see the majority of them as silly shallow people. I think it's also the reason why I still haven't met anyone that I really liked to the point of wanting to start a relationship with him. I'm kinda used to it now, you can't change who you are,and at the end que sera, sera ...

[Blue Ocean]

t made me think about my own maturity, and how the fact that I'm not a very silly person

People see me as a dull and too serious person , I see the majority of them as silly shallow people.

I dunno, somehow I seem to manage being both dull and silly. Often at the same time.

[Einsteinette]

I dunno, somehow I seem to manage being both dull and silly. Often at the same time.

It's not my fault , even when I try to be sociable I don't know what to do or what to talk about . I think I don't really grasp the concept of social conversations or any other social aspects for that matter. I was born socially incompetent , along the years I learned by observation two or three things that allowed me to hide my discomfort and ineptitude and although I usually manage to do it when I really have to , it's always a very stressful process for me.

[shadowofambivalence]

I sometimes feel like i truly hate my mom and that I may never genuinely like her as a person, and I literary have fantasies of suffocating her with a plastic bag and possibly raping her or selling her on the black market as a slave/toy for some other sadistic freak. I honestly sometimes wish instead of a baby being born that i was some parasitic disease that killed her because she is just some useless clod anyway that has nothing beneficial to offer other than being a sex object for dope fiending bastards that would end up killing her anyway once they become bored of her or frustrated with her low intelligence and lack of common sense. I hate it that I feel this way and I hate it that I think of her this way but i just feel so much rage its ridiculous.

[Blue Ocean]

It's not my fault , even when I try to be sociable I don't know what to do or what to talk about . I think I don't really grasp the concept of social conversations or any other social aspects for that matter. I was born socially incompetent , along the years I learned by observation two or three things that allowed me to hide my discomfort and ineptitude and although I usually manage to do it when I really have to , it's always a very stressful process for me.

I wasn't blaming you! I understand how you feel. I've also found it difficult to 'fit in' in a social sense, and I always feel awkward.

What I meant was that I also have the ability to be really stupid and silly at times. I've found that because I laugh at myself a lot, it seems to make me appear a little less intimidating/cold to at least some people.