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This is a discussion on INTJ Difficulties... Do you any difficulties? within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Hello there, I was wondering if any INTJ has difficulties, inner difficulties or outer (as in the society you live ...

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    INTJ Difficulties... Do you any difficulties?

    Hello there,


    I was wondering if any INTJ has difficulties, inner difficulties or outer (as in the society you live in).

    While most of my difficulties are with and because of the society I live in, I was wondering if anyone here has been told that they're hard on themselves.

    Do you like your personality? Would you prefer another one? What is it that bothers you about yourself (if you get bothered)

    What do you love about being an INTJ?

    I have my own views but I prefer to read yours first.

    Thank you for your time.



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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Difficulties?

    Hmm. Some things are relatively harder than others, or easier than others. Ergo to experience and grasp such simple differences is to experience difficulty. That I can take such a detached and analytical view suggests whatever difficulties I face haven't bled by past my tolerances for comforts.

    In terms of great difficulties I have faced? None really come to mind. The ones that usually come to mind are ones that endure to this moment, and I prefer to deal with problems conclusively rather than let them drag on.

    Life could be worse, but then again such sentiment could be applied to any and every situation, with the subjective factored in, thus rendering it meaningless as a distinctive quality unless applied as a comparison between specific contexts. So perhaps I shall amend the sentiment: it doesn't seem too bad.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Definitely my difficulties are:

    1 - Unknown Variables. I don't necessarily need to be in control of things, but I sure like to know what direction things are heading. If there are serious unknown variables pertaining to my life, I get very nervous. That kind of nervous you get when you think the cop behind you might pull you over but you aren't sure.

    2 - Becoming acquainted with someone else's system. Especially if I don't have the option to improve it. When I have a new task to do, say on a job or something, I like to be very thorough in understanding a system before I can operate well within it. This can take quite a bit of time as I become familiar with the system. This happens a lot in life. Even playing a new game I haven't played before, if its something I am completely unfamiliar with, I have that period of discomfort until I grasp the system, and after that, I have no trouble at all.

    3 - Reading other people's feelings. Yes I know this is Fe which is my 7th function, so it is to be expected I'm not going to be very good at it. But others don't expect this like I do, and can often think I'm being insensitive when I don't understand the reason they are telling me something emotional. One thing that helps is to explain to people that I'm just not as good at reading other people's emotions as they are. This goes double for my ENFJ girlfriend who is about 50 times better at this than I am.

    4 - Conforming to society's expectations. As an INTJ, I have no respect for meaningless rules and rituals. Everything needs to have a reason and purpose. That is not to say that I completely loathe the subjective. Subjective things have a purpose too. I may do something because I personally "like" it and that's ok. What I'm talking about is conforming to certain rules of culture, such as social rules or even minor civil laws (speed limits, copyrights, etc) Sometimes I consider the many aspects of Western culture which I'd just prefer did not exist.

    What do I like about being an INTJ? Most everything. I love the confidence, and "knowing what I know" especially. I know my limitations, strengths and weaknesses, and can intuitively and fairly well instantaneously give an answer as to whether I am able to take on a certain task. I don't really need time to "mull it over" regarding any issue. Sometimes people think that I'm not thinking things through properly if I give an answer immediately, but they don't understand that my Ni is about 100 times faster than theirs, and I can see the end from the beginning in most scenarios. In cases where I do not have enough variables to make an intuitive judgement, I often lock up though, because suddenly I can't see that end from the beginning and its like I'm wearing a blindfold. The older I get I've noticed its easier to make intuitive predictions because I can make "reliable guesses" in place of the unknown variables.

    What don't I like about being an INTJ? Probably being constantly misunderstood by others. Thankfully, my personality itself does not really care all that much about what others think of me, but I've had situations where people in my social circles have kept their distance or misjudged me because I am noticeably different; perhaps eccentric. I don't do things like "normal" people do, and I don't care. Its my gift to them to expose their judgmental attitude and frankly they really ought to work on being more accepting of others if they can't handle the fact that I do things different than they do. So its not a huge deal, but it does create a certain degree of social friction with some people. My two best friends are INTP and another INTJ, and everybody else is a "casual friend" who I don't spend a lot of time with and don't share my deepest concerns and thoughts with. I'm ok with that.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    I couldn't agree with you more.

    While most of your difficulties seem very logical and okay to me, i do understand why you would call them difficulties.

    I'm also the type of person that needs to understand a job or assignment completely before I try to make a move, even (as pressuring as it may seem) if that job is due tomorrow. I need to know if it's logical, fair and worth the work otherwise I wouldn't do it. While most of my mates don't understand this and usually just start to do what they are told I try to find out why do we do what we are told?

    And very often people just think I'm complicating things when it's simple (usually when the task that was asked from me doesn't seem logical and understandable).

    I wouldn't classify these characteristics as a difficulty or problem but I think it's the other way around it's the society that lacks the logic we seek.



    Thank you for your time, it really helped to read your answers.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Hello!

    Of course, I think everyone has difficulties and problems more or less.
    Umm yes I do like my personality and wouldn't prefer an other one.

    What bothers me:
    My lack of enthusiasm, being too realistic, my mind, my obsessions, my compulsions and being an extremist.

    What I like:
    Being able to live on my own without being a bother to anyone else. I like being rational over emotional too. Sooo that's what I have in mind right now.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Damagedfinger View Post
    And very often people just think I'm complicating things when it's simple (usually when the task that was asked from me doesn't seem logical and understandable).
    it did cause me a huge amount of stress and distress when i was younger and i felt like i had to listen to that attitude from pretty much everyone. there was a lot of frustration and some good moments of hopelessness/helplessness/desolation in it. eventually i figured out a few things and realised i was setting myself up for some of all that, by beating my head against the same wall all the time. so to that extent understanding that society was to 'blame' was helpful, but in the longer run i moved away from that sense and just got to where it's just one of those things. you have a society and within the society there are minorities. and this is one of the areas where i'm a minority, so naturally i'm going to have trouble with it.

    it got easier when i realised there was no point in expecting other people to get where i was coming from, over it. i'm still a career 'complicator' but the big thing is that now i understand that i AM on the fringes with it.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Difficulties? Well . . . I have preferences and non-preferences. Any difficulty I have involves dealing with my non-preferences. For example, I don't prefer to immediately express my feelings to others. So when another person demands immediate expression of feelings, that's difficult. I'm not a naturally outgoing person -- I prefer being reserved, so I have difficulty in situations that demand outgoing mannerisms. I prefer intellectually stimulating interaction with others, so I have difficulty with things like small talk or interacting with high school drop-outs. You get the idea.

    The thing I love most about preferring INTJ is being Ni-dominant. I can't imagine living life any other way, nor would I want to. I do, however, wish that I was more extraverted as far as being more outgoing and more energized by social interaction. But extraversion is at odds with being Ni-dom . . . . so I can't have both . . .

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    Unknown Personality

    Difficulties, inner or outer? So basically any difficulties at all? I don't think anyone's life has gone absolutely perfectly with no difficulties at all, hahaha.

    I'm not really hard on myself. I have anxiety issues at times, but that's about it.

    I don't like or dislike my personality. It's my personality and it's what I got. Judging it in a like/dislike kind of thing is pointless. Preferring another one is the same thing - a waste of time that'll only bring unhappiness. I don't like that I have anxiety, but I realize it's my own fault, so then that's the end of that.

    I'm not going to comment on liking/disliking a label. MBTI describes me as an INTJ. I don't 'love' being an INTJ because I don't think of myself as INTJ. I'm me. That's it.

    On another note, damn, when I'm very tired (as I am right now), my aggressiveness/snarkiness/sarcasm/bluntness goes through the friggin' roof. I'm gonna go sleep now. Hopefully nothing came off too forceful.

  9. #9
    INFJ - The Protectors

    Quote Originally Posted by Vampire View Post
    I like being rational over emotional too.
    Would you care to elaborate upon what constitutes a more rational approach to life?

    I'm intrigued.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Recon777 View Post
    As an INTJ, I have no respect for meaningless rules and rituals. Everything needs to have a reason and purpose.
    Word to your motherboard.

    Also, why does that sound so familiar? Oh yeah:



 
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