[TheWaffle]

You know you're an INTJ when you can more often than not guess who people are talking about in the "Tell a Member What You Really Think of Them" thread.

[MissJordan]

You know you're an INTJ when you can more often than not guess who people are talking about in the "Tell a Member What You Really Think of Them" thread.

You know you're an INTJ, when you've been mentioned at least once in that thread

[Abraxas]

I have a friend who's an ENTJ, and we've been friends for a really long time. We have almost everything in common, and lately I've been in contact with him again after a relatively long period of silence (six months) where we were out of touch.

I'm really beginning to see the difference between Te-Ni and Ni-Te. I was on the fence about possibly being an ENTJ, but I see now why I'm not.

He likes to win, and he likes to hammer things out on the spot. I wouldn't say he's more confident than I am - he's over-confident. He has this "It's only hubris if I'm wrong" attitude all the time. Except, it really is hubris a lot of the time, and getting him to realize it is next to impossible. If you can't make an objective argument, he won't even listen, but if you do make an objective argument - you've entered his battlefield and he never surrender. He'll endlessly formulate one argument after another grounded in 'reality' according to some statistic, or some empirical standard, and that automatically makes him right. I mean, technically it does make him right by definition. I don't know why I have hard time with this (probably my Ni-dom), because he is right, but 'rightness' isn't the ends, it's the means to an end.

Sometimes nonsense can deliver the goods just as well, but try telling that to an ENTJ. Maybe some of the more Ni-developed ones might agree, but I wouldn't count on it. Subjective opinions have zero value to him. In fact, he looks down on them. If I tell him something like, "an objective standard is just an arbitrary measuring stick and only useful if that matters to you" it's like I've just contradicted the essence of his soul, and really, I suppose I have since he's a Te-dom.

Anyway, yet another confirmation that I'm an INTJ rather than an ENTJ. As a Te-dom, I would have a harder time discarding an external standard that I've come to rely upon in order to accept an outside opinion, which would make me come across as more stubborn and aggressive than I am. Often I say things in a direct sort of 'matter of fact' way, here on PerC for example, but the truth is that I'm not at all committed to any particular opinion. I'm actually very whimsical and aloof. I don't want to just say, "I'm trolling" because it's not always to get a reaction. Most of the time, it's a test. Like a chemist mixing together different things to see what happens. Sometimes I give a hard opinion that I'm firm in, but whenever I do that I actually feel like I'm being an idiot. There's always this reservation in the back of my mind that I'm over-committing myself. I want to be right, which comes from Te, but more than anything, I want to be free, which comes from Ni. Kind of ironic how those two ideas contradict but still work together somehow.

[Napoleptic]

Sometimes I give a hard opinion that I'm firm in, but whenever I do that I actually feel like I'm being an idiot. There's always this reservation in the back of my mind that I'm over-committing myself. I want to be right, which comes from Te, but more than anything, I want to be free, which comes from Ni. Kind of ironic how those two ideas contradict but still work together somehow.

This made me laugh out loud - that's pretty much how I feel about giving a firm opinion, but I never thought to put it in quite those terms.

[Abraxas]

This made me laugh out loud - that's pretty much how I feel about giving a firm opinion, but I never thought to put it in quite those terms.

It's like I'm tipping my hand, I guess you could say? I don't know.

Which is actually one thing I like about INTJs. You can give an opinion, and they're likely to be more interested in what it implies, than the accuracy of the opinion itself. The accuracy of the opinion is straight-forward, it either is or it isn't, and that may or may not actually matter. What matters is what it means.

It reminds me of a quote from Scarface, "I always tell the truth, even when I lie."

I want to say, INTJs are more concerned with what is relevant than what is accurate.

EDIT: Made me think of a good comparison between Ni and Ti. Ni is more concerned with what is relevant, Ti is more concerned with what is consistent. A more exact way of putting it would be to say that Ni is more concerned with what is intuitive, but that's a bit more of an ambiguous description. Intuitiveness is close to relevancy, it's like when someone says, "this user-interface is very intuitive" - they mean, "I don't have to spend a lot of time figuring this interface out. It's automatic." I imagine, from a design perspective, if you wanted to build an interface to be more intuitive, you'd focus on trying to design it in such a way that everything within it was relevant to everything else, sort've like consistency in a Ti-sense, which looks for logical consistency, but the focus of Ni is to try and eliminate the thought process entirely so everything just flows without thinking.

[lolthevoidlol]

During most "conversations" you're wondering why the person is speaking to you...

[OwLY]

During most "conversations" you're wondering why the person is speaking to you...

Especially on Facebook. I already barely use the thing to talk to people that I can only talk to through it, so why is it that random people pop up in chat trying to start an unwarranted conversation with me? Sometimes I ignore it, sometimes I play along, but it always bothers me.

[TheWaffle]

You know you're an INTJ when you relate to and have done this:

[MaxSilverHammer]

hmmm.. when people say you are direct, be it any topic , and when they ask u "what are u?" (this one, i actually got asked by a classmate of mine).

I have been asked the "what ARE you?" question on more than one occasion. What exactly do they want to know?

[MaxSilverHammer]

I was reading an article the other day on the web called "Psychopath or an INTj gone to the dark side?" I was thinking, for a cookie hell yeah!

I'd love to read that. Link please?

Update: (I found the link; thanks.)