[Dr. Metallic]

Yes, I may be jumping the bandwagon of "piss off" threads, but I'm alright with that.

INTJ's, what pisses you off? What irks you?

Everyone else, what do you say upsets the INTJ?



I'll start:
Everything. I can piss and moan under any circumstance; but it's this that leads to improvement.
Hmmmm, more specific.... When people can't follow simple cause and effect.

[NephilimAzrael]

The use of Logical fallacies. Not just in argument, but when they are used in general conversation.
This and dishonest tricks in an argument. Which can be seen in most media as well as conversation.
For further information on these see: Straight and Crooked Thinking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here are just a few fallacies:
1. Ad hominem: Attacking the character of the person forwarding an argument.
2. Ad populum: Making an argument based on popular viewpoints, which does not verify it aas correct.
3. Anecdotal evidence: Use of special cases to contradict an argument based on statistical evidence.
4. Appeal to authority: Argument or suggestion claiming validity due to an expert or authorities approval/agreement.
5. Appeal to ignorance: Suggesting that due to a lack of evidence for or against a case, then the case must be false.
6. Biased Evidence: Backing only one's own opinion without investigating around the topic.
7. Repetition: Stating things in repetition does not validify a statement.
8. Straw man arguments: Misrepresenting a position, so as to create a debating point that detracts from the main topic.

[Shai Gar]

God DAMN. No wonder not many INTJs are Religious.

[Dr. Metallic]

A requirement for clear, logical discussions, and explanations should not suggest that INTJs have no room for religion.

[DayLightSun]

A requirement for clear, logical discussions, and explanations should not suggest that INTJs have no room for religion.

Or NTs for that reason.

[Shai Gar]

L Ron Hubbard was an ENTP and HE had room for religion. Sure it was a religion based on ripping people off and scamming them into being cult members under a corporate and religious farce... But what ENTP doesn't design a religion like that?

[cryptonia]

4. Appeal to authority: Argument or suggestion claiming validity due to an expert or authorities approval/agreement.

^ badly hurts most religious arguments ^

5. Appeal to ignorance: Suggesting that due to a lack of evidence for or against a case, then the case must be false.

^ badly hurts most atheistic arguments ^

1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8

^ applies to both pretty equally ^

....what's your point, shai?

[NephilimAzrael]

Ahem, found this to be relevant (from INFJf):

[Shai Gar]

you saw the other ones too?

[Shai Gar]

4. Appeal to authority: Argument or suggestion claiming validity due to an expert or authorities approval/agreement.

^ badly hurts most religious arguments ^

5. Appeal to ignorance: Suggesting that due to a lack of evidence for or against a case, then the case must be false.

^ badly hurts most atheistic arguments ^

1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8

^ applies to both pretty equally ^

....what's your point, shai?

my point was that not ALL NTs disregard religion.