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This is a discussion on Ever feel like you are shutting down? within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; I've definitely felt that as a human being I was inefficient, inactive, and not optimizing the world around me. Whatever ...

  1. #11
    INTJ - The Scientists

    I've definitely felt that as a human being I was inefficient, inactive, and not optimizing the world around me. Whatever the situation is, I always have an ideal construction of that situation in the back of my mind at all times; my mind is aware and creates aggravation if I'm not striving towards building said construction. I think this mindset is quietly motivating, but when you're entrenched in lethargy or inactivity, it can result in a lack of personal well-being.

    So, yes I've been where you are. The key is to give yourself some varied, meaningful routine. Connect to something--sometimes it is preferable that that something not be the internet. What it took for me to get out of a very real slump I was in was to experience failure. We all, especially perfection-minded INTJs at times, need to experience rock bottom to be able to set our sights ever higher.

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  2. #12
    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by letmeknowwhenitworks View Post
    As of late, my life is becoming more of a mess, because of none other but myself. I used to be very driven, and in-control of my behaviours. I was well-planned, disciplined, loved to read, and loved to discuss things. Now, things are completely different. I'm becoming lazy and aversive to introspecting or thinking too much. I lack discipline, and my attention span is suffering (I can't even sit down to read some of my favourite books). It feels like I'm coasting through things without actually being fully aware (you know that feeling when you know something inside out? I don't have that anymore regardless of how much time I invest). I'm just not ambitious or driven anymore. Consequently, many of my life-aspects are suffering (academics, home life, friendships, etc.). I used to write things down whenever I went through a rough patch, but now I can't even bring myself to pick up a pen.

    Someone told me that I might be depressed, but I don't think so: I don't feel anything at all. Has anyone gone through something like this?

    Help!
    You could be experiencing an enneagram related issue. That is, you feel secure in your life (as a 6w5), but you are still at a lowered state. When this happens, 6s act like an unhealthy 9 rather than 3 (because of the security). And I think what you are describing fit the sloth/distraction oriented mind of a lowered state 9 pretty well.
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  3. #13
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by letmeknowwhenitworks View Post
    Someone told me that I might be depressed, but I don't think so: I don't feel anything at all. Has anyone gone through something like this?
    I've heard that emptiness is also a sign of depression. Or, well, that's what it says on the facts page on TWLOHA. And like Sophia said, it's probably existential depression.

    Get lost in a book. Exercise. Do something you like. I find myself in your situation the more I become stagnant. I like my alone time, but sometimes I need to do something productive if I think too much about depressing existentialism shit.
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  4. #14
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by letmeknowwhenitworks View Post
    As of late, my life is becoming more of a mess, because of none other but myself. I used to be very driven, and in-control of my behaviours. I was well-planned, disciplined, loved to read, and loved to discuss things. Now, things are completely different. I'm becoming lazy and aversive to introspecting or thinking too much. I lack discipline, and my attention span is suffering (I can't even sit down to read some of my favourite books). It feels like I'm coasting through things without actually being fully aware (you know that feeling when you know something inside out? I don't have that anymore regardless of how much time I invest). I'm just not ambitious or driven anymore. Consequently, many of my life-aspects are suffering (academics, home life, friendships, etc.). I used to write things down whenever I went through a rough patch, but now I can't even bring myself to pick up a pen.

    Someone told me that I might be depressed, but I don't think so: I don't feel anything at all. Has anyone gone through something like this?

    Help!
    Oh my... I didn't want to pay too much attention to my problems, but I understand what you're going through quite well... I don't exactly know what this problem is either, but if you need somebody to talk to I'm open.

    I've stopped doing the more important things in my life and filled my days with mindless activities....

    Tell me, has anything been stressing you lately?

  5. #15
    Unknown Personality

    Quote Originally Posted by letmeknowwhenitworks View Post
    As of late, my life is becoming more of a mess, because of none other but myself. I used to be very driven, and in-control of my behaviours. I was well-planned, disciplined, loved to read, and loved to discuss things. Now, things are completely different. I'm becoming lazy and aversive to introspecting or thinking too much. I lack discipline, and my attention span is suffering (I can't even sit down to read some of my favourite books). It feels like I'm coasting through things without actually being fully aware (you know that feeling when you know something inside out? I don't have that anymore regardless of how much time I invest). I'm just not ambitious or driven anymore. Consequently, many of my life-aspects are suffering (academics, home life, friendships, etc.). I used to write things down whenever I went through a rough patch, but now I can't even bring myself to pick up a pen.

    Someone told me that I might be depressed, but I don't think so: I don't feel anything at all. Has anyone gone through something like this?

    Help!
    The only thing I can really do is offer advice based on my personal experience.
    I just had a ton of self reflection last night, I wrote about 26 pages on my relationship with my ex.
    Upon reflection I realized that prior to meeting her I was very ambitious, positive, upbeat. I was pursuing my bachelors degree at the time and felt like there were endless opportunities.

    When I got with my ex I felt like life was perfect but my goals changed. It was no longer about just me but I wanted to be a good provider and thus needed to focus on the immediate. Some life experience later but long story short I ended up making promises to her which went unfulfilled and felt quite guilty for it. Later I made some decisions that I thought would be best for us but seemed to only make it worse and this only compounded the sense of failure and guilt for breaking my promises to her.

    My goals went from doing what I can to make myself better, to doing it for us, to well I failed at those things now I just need to finish this and make some money. I ended up losing that sense of ambition and positivity and instead had feelings of guilt and self doubt. I've held onto those feelings for so long that it was eating at everything in my life. I realized that recently, it took away my sense of direction.

    My solution was realized when I wrote all of these feelings out, and unlike before I told her everything from beginning to end. Everything that ever bothered me, anything I ever did that I felt betrayed her anything that made me feel like a bad person... and I sent it to her. I finally have a sense of closure and I can finally look her in the eye and know that at the very least I am honest and I took responsibility for my mistakes. I acknowledge I've made bad decisions, I understand why they were bad decisions in hindsight and I am ready to start on a new path with all the lessons I've learned. I hope that's what takes me out of this rut that I honestly feel like I've been on for years.

  6. #16
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by A Little Bit of Cheeze View Post
    Oh my... I didn't want to pay too much attention to my problems, but I understand what you're going through quite well... I don't exactly know what this problem is either, but if you need somebody to talk to I'm open.

    I've stopped doing the more important things in my life and filled my days with mindless activities....

    Tell me, has anything been stressing you lately?
    In all honesty, after an event (which I think now is probably an anxiety attack), I don't really care for anything to be stressed out about it. Even now, when I actually do things, it just seems like I'm not "there" doing them. I go through the motions, but I'm not aware of the motions (I don't know if that made sense). I can't focus or pay attention to things on the physical/external level anymore.

  7. #17
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by INTJ the DC View Post
    The only thing I can really do is offer advice based on my personal experience.
    I just had a ton of self reflection last night, I wrote about 26 pages on my relationship with my ex.
    Upon reflection I realized that prior to meeting her I was very ambitious, positive, upbeat. I was pursuing my bachelors degree at the time and felt like there were endless opportunities.

    When I got with my ex I felt like life was perfect but my goals changed. It was no longer about just me but I wanted to be a good provider and thus needed to focus on the immediate. Some life experience later but long story short I ended up making promises to her which went unfulfilled and felt quite guilty for it. Later I made some decisions that I thought would be best for us but seemed to only make it worse and this only compounded the sense of failure and guilt for breaking my promises to her.

    My goals went from doing what I can to make myself better, to doing it for us, to well I failed at those things now I just need to finish this and make some money. I ended up losing that sense of ambition and positivity and instead had feelings of guilt and self doubt. I've held onto those feelings for so long that it was eating at everything in my life. I realized that recently, it took away my sense of direction.

    My solution was realized when I wrote all of these feelings out, and unlike before I told her everything from beginning to end. Everything that ever bothered me, anything I ever did that I felt betrayed her anything that made me feel like a bad person... and I sent it to her. I finally have a sense of closure and I can finally look her in the eye and know that at the very least I am honest and I took responsibility for my mistakes. I acknowledge I've made bad decisions, I understand why they were bad decisions in hindsight and I am ready to start on a new path with all the lessons I've learned. I hope that's what takes me out of this rut that I honestly feel like I've been on for years.
    Did you realize the problem that you had prior to writing or through it?

  8. #18
    ENTJ - The Executives

    Quote Originally Posted by letmeknowwhenitworks View Post
    As of late, my life is becoming more of a mess, because of none other but myself. I used to be very driven, and in-control of my behaviours. I was well-planned, disciplined, loved to read, and loved to discuss things. Now, things are completely different. I'm becoming lazy and aversive to introspecting or thinking too much. I lack discipline, and my attention span is suffering (I can't even sit down to read some of my favourite books). It feels like I'm coasting through things without actually being fully aware (you know that feeling when you know something inside out? I don't have that anymore regardless of how much time I invest). I'm just not ambitious or driven anymore. Consequently, many of my life-aspects are suffering (academics, home life, friendships, etc.). I used to write things down whenever I went through a rough patch, but now I can't even bring myself to pick up a pen.

    Someone told me that I might be depressed, but I don't think so: I don't feel anything at all. Has anyone gone through something like this?

    Help!

    I can kind of relate to what you're experiencing. I wouldn't call it shutting down though, but more like being hollow or empty or whatever it is. Like when people constantly ask how I feel or what I think, I really don't feel anything, I don't really think anything, it's just nothing. It isn't really good or bad. It's just a whole lot of nothing. It's not as sad as people would like to think but that's just how things are for me I guess.
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  9. #19
    Unknown Personality

    Quote Originally Posted by letmeknowwhenitworks View Post
    Did you realize the problem that you had prior to writing or through it?
    In a way yes and in a way no. Sometimes when you write stuff down it makes you remember stuff that you had sort of repressed. Sometimes when you write stuff down you take ownership for stuff you felt but are good at putting in the back of your mind. It's really hard to explain. The writing just went on and on until I could no longer think of tangents. Tangents of things that made me feel guilty. Without putting them down it just sort of ran in the back of my mind.

    A big part of what was wrong was me trying to hide those dark thoughts from myself and my actions from my ex.

    I was aware something was wrong but taking the time to talk to yourself aloud in a sense, was therapeutic.
    I got pretty emotional writing the stuff down but I had done well at just putting it in the back of mind and ignoring until if festered and ate away at me. Making the things that should be joyful seem so unimportant.
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  10. #20
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by letmeknowwhenitworks View Post
    As of late, my life is becoming more of a mess, because of none other but myself. I used to be very driven, and in-control of my behaviours. I was well-planned, disciplined, loved to read, and loved to discuss things. Now, things are completely different. I'm becoming lazy and aversive to introspecting or thinking too much. I lack discipline, and my attention span is suffering (I can't even sit down to read some of my favourite books). It feels like I'm coasting through things without actually being fully aware (you know that feeling when you know something inside out? I don't have that anymore regardless of how much time I invest). I'm just not ambitious or driven anymore. Consequently, many of my life-aspects are suffering (academics, home life, friendships, etc.). I used to write things down whenever I went through a rough patch, but now I can't even bring myself to pick up a pen.

    Someone told me that I might be depressed, but I don't think so: I don't feel anything at all. Has anyone gone through something like this?

    Help!
    Nutrition might be off. But I'm not an expert on that. I recommend regular sleep and healthy food; no masturbation nor junk food. Your dopamine reward circle might be off, you mind can be cloudy, your energy low. For starters, deny yourself anything that gives you pleasure and want more of, unless it is really productive.

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