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    Stay away from witchcraft there is always a catch to it. I use to be a happy ESFP but then I found a book of shadows and casted a spell to become more strategic. It worked but I was cursed to spend the rest of my days as an INTJ.



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    I saw a news story mentioning a group of "witches" convened at night and tried to cast a spell on Donald Trump.

    Needless to say it was one of those hard laughs where you can't breathe and feel like you may have seriously pulled a muscle in your neck.

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    Witchcraft - No.

    Alchemy - who knows if I wouldn't be interested in alchemy if I lived in middle ages ? Some chemical reactions are very astonishing... so I guess it's a matter of curiosity. Actually, too bad nowadays everything you meet in everyday life is intimately explained, so I can't feed with it my dopaminergic system seeking for the answers.

    But alchemy in modern days? Historical view on it might be interesting, however most people dealing with it today are interested in something else - like seeking for some 'mystical excitement' , or impressing their environment with something unusual or whatever...


    Quote Originally Posted by rezo View Post
    Stay away from witchcraft there is always a catch to it. I use to be a happy ESFP but then I found a book of shadows and casted a spell to become more strategic. It worked but I was cursed to spend the rest of my days as an INTJ.
    Maybe now you need some brain-damaging "alchemy" to reverse back ?
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    Witchcraft: I don't know. There's always a sinister undercurrent associated to it. Not necessarily because it's linked to the paranormal, Satanism, or the shadowy shamanism of pre-Christian beliefs. It's because it connotes the willingness to bend natural law and order to the whims and passions of (wo)man. It freaks people out that someone would covet that kind of power to the effect of studying it and practicing it. It betrays a kind of enviousness that undergirds superstitious attitudes, and exists beneath the rational mind and morality.

    Officially, I've got no problem with it. People have been chanting, cursing, communing with spirits for years. It has done nothing to stop the fall of empires, prevent famine, prevent natural disasters or stave off death. At most, diviners can "predict" earthquakes and talk of political unrest and societal upheavals making an affect on the mortals in mundane astrology, something that would've been known by looking at a history book for 5 minutes. Restricted to intrapersonal understanding and perspective, I think it's fine. Beyond that, things get shaky. 'Fate' is constantly being interrupted by the wills, wishes and whims of other diviners, soothsayers, demons, spirits and everyone else gets caught in the middle. It creates such a impenetrable web of chaos, you don't know which spell begot what, whose prayers blessed or cursed whom. And good luck trying to verify everything.

    Alchemy: Pardon if this is blunt, but alchemy is like a lower level form of chemistry. It's relegated to an ossified category of pseudo-science reserved for once touted theories, practices and disciplines that have seen been displaced by better, more verifiable theories and practices. It reflects the ignorance and limitations of society's capacity to gather information at the time. We can observe things at the microscopic level and be able to understand more about the chemical reactions between different substances with better technology and better methods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Praesepe View Post
    It's because it connotes the willingness to bend natural law and order to the whims and passions of (wo)man.
    for the sake of my friend, i'll just say that i think she would see this as a gross misrepresentation. her presentation and practice were not about bending anything. they were about working within the given parameters, not trying to game them or subvert them.

    i said that she provided what was basically a readme file to go with her spell, and it was pretty thick with that clarification. in that sense, i don't think her form of wicca was all that different from alchemy, really. same idea of 'these things might not be commonly known, but under the terms of this structure they are givens.' and the same kind of thing about pushing the boundaries of those 'laws' too hard or doing it for invalid or selfish reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilysocks View Post
    for the sake of my friend, i'll just say that i think she would see this as a gross misrepresentation. her presentation and practice were not about bending anything. they were about working within the given parameters, not trying to game them or subvert them.
    That's not my view or what I meant exactly, but thanks for the clarification all the same. Yeah, maybe this society's way of quantifying and separating everything is just a form bending nature to human will. *shrug*
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