[Feral sheep]

when it comes to office politics, things can get pretty nasty. I seen second hand someone`s name tossed around in the lunch room and later few weeks down the road the said person transferred out of the department, hours cut and terminated.

you either play or you lose and eventually starve. its not a matter of skill, it really is a matter of politics. so do you play? how do you play? do you have issues playing the hunger games?

(if you are a young infp, you might want to sit this thread out. 25 and up please feel free to respond)

[Feral sheep]

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[telepariah]

Yes. I'm 55 and just retired from my corporate career having never played the game. The stress of it took a huge toll on me, affecting my physical and mental health. It went from bad to worse when it became undeniable that it didn't even matter what I did in my job activities. All that mattered was playing the game. We weren't helping anybody. I worked for two years in a strategy and innovation role that was so bureaucratic all we did was spend millions of dollars to come up with zero contributions in the way of strategy and innovation. I worked for nearly 20 years after my life as a professional student in corporate learning and talent development and every day was a political fight for my professional life. I have always been too idealistic and non-competitive to fit into that world. It was also politics that drove me from my academic career and if I think about it, every other job I have left in my life.

Now I don't have enough money to truly retire, so I am in the market for another lower paying and less political job. My intention is to work only in things that I love. We'll see how that goes.

[refugee]

It's hard for dreamers.

We belong in the clouds somewhere.

Or in a dark alley cafe with a bitter cup of coffee.

Waiting for the world to be reborn.

[Oh_no_she_DIDNT]

"The game is rigged. But you cannot lose, if you do not play"
-Marla Daniels, The Wire

[FaveteLinguis]

Note: I'm going to liberally ignore that age limit, so feel free to disregard what I say here.

so do you play?
Depends on the people I work with. I usually don't have too, but I've seen some pretty nasty instances where the gloves had to be taken off.

how do you play?
I think Machiavelli and Sun Tzu are incredibly useful teachers in this regard. Ethics do come into play however. I keep on good terms with everybody without getting walked on (Keep your friends close, your enemies closer). I pick my battles wisely, if the end result is not worth the effort you might as well just save it for later (live to fight another day). Choose to deal with problems on your terms (make your opponent fight at your choosing). Go for a personal approach (pride is everybody's downfall, people will appreciate the fact you help them save face).

In the end I try to incorporate a lot of integrity into my actions and what I say. If those two match up, most people's arguments will fall flat and make them look ridiculous. That also depends on the overall environment you find yourself in as well.

do you have issues playing the hunger games?
I hate playing politics and trying to cover my own ass. I consider a threat to my livelihood the threshhold however, as soon as someone crosses it I don't forget.

[unclebigs]

Note: I'm going to liberally ignore that age limit, so feel free to disregard what I say here.

so do you play?
Depends on the people I work with. I usually don't have too, but I've seen some pretty nasty instances where the gloves had to be taken off.

how do you play?
I think Machiavelli and Sun Tzu are incredibly useful teachers in this regard. Ethics do come into play however. I keep on good terms with everybody without getting walked on (Keep your friends close, your enemies closer). I pick my battles wisely, if the end result is not worth the effort you might as well just save it for later (live to fight another day). Choose to deal with problems on your terms (make your opponent fight at your choosing). Go for a personal approach (pride is everybody's downfall, people will appreciate the fact you help them save face).

In the end I try to incorporate a lot of integrity into my actions and what I say. If those two match up, most people's arguments will fall flat and make them look ridiculous. That also depends on the overall environment you find yourself in as well.

do you have issues playing the hunger games?
I hate playing politics and trying to cover my own ass. I consider a threat to my livelihood the threshhold however, as soon as someone crosses it I don't forget.

Playing the game in a corrupt economic system is futile. Why spend your life chasing after paper clownbucks.

Time is better spent keeping out of the system and doing all you can to dismantle the corruption and fraud. Don't play the game. Disrupt the game.

[Vin The Dreamer]

Forgive me for my innocence and age, but people actually do this? They try to ruin other people's reputations in the workplace? I can understand if it's a few people, but does it really involve the whole personnel?

[FaveteLinguis]

Playing the game in a corrupt economic system is futile. Why spend your life chasing after paper clownbucks.

Time is better spent keeping out of the system and doing all you can to dismantle the corruption and fraud. Don't play the game. Disrupt the game.

Depends on what game you want to play, and whether you're obligated.

As far as economic systems go, well I honestly don't have a problem with capitalism (theoritically, some practices however I don't like). So far I haven't seen anything conclusively better, or that can be brought on through practical means.

Though you have a point about chasing after money, it's not healthy or the best way to live. That hasn't been, nor likely will it ever be my prerogative. I'm just able to tolerate a little bit more BS for tangible and intangible benefits.

[da_gobbo]

i really really hate office politics as a result my work has always been in smaller companies (i don't really care if the pays poor as only as the working environment won't drive me insane) luckily small companies don't tend to have office politics, everyones too busy working, and if your the only one doing your job your boss notices the work not the politics