[chip]

All of you have it wrong. It's your amygdala. It's in over drive. The catalyst for your anxiety/panic attacks is not important. What is important is diverting yourself with every thing possible, meditation, and anything you can possibly do to form positive habits. You've gotten yourself into this from having bad habits (Dwelling on anxiety etc) you need to switch your high anxiety switch to off, and get it back down to it's appropriate level. I was strangled a year ago and since then, I had the worst anxiety I had ever experienced. I'm still doing this linden program but I downloaded it. It only works when you have all of the program (Torrent sites cut out some of it when I downloaded it =( ) But this is a scientific reason as to why you're suffering like this.



We are suppose to have anxiety but not high levels unless you're being chased by a lion. This is like being terrified of a rabbit behind bushes. It's like being afraid of an itch. These are sensations you're experiencing, including physical and physical sensations come before anxiety. Mine started after drinking too much caffeine, then the panic, I felt like I wanted to die, I wanted to kill myself then so the pattern starts. Physical, then mental. It is scientifically proven.

[Nintaku]

I don't know if anyone else gets what i mean by this, but i feel like i carn't enjoy just the simple things anymore.I'm constantly trying to pursue my music career, which involves producing Electronic Dance Music, and that is constantly in my head, ideas etc. I feel like i've lost how it feels to be in the now, always worrying, on edge, about future events, or, i should be doing this, doing that, or my life is doomed. My mind races with this thoughts all the time, and like i said, i don't really feel like I'm 'here' in my mind, like I'm disconnected from feeling how i should right now in this world

Like right now, i have a book i wanna read, id love to just get it out now and start reading, but i find it hard to relax and get into it, and it just doesn't feel right, like i should be doing something productive, or that ive forgotten something that needs doing

Anyone else have this?

Anxiety is almost as bad as depression since the two are linked.
Try clearing your head. Grab a notebook and just write down everything until you can't think of anything else. Pour your worries, fears, hopes, dreams, and anything else that pops into your mind onto the paper. Don't bother numbering them, or making any order of it.
This exercise should help with the anxiety a little. Later, after you've relaxed, you can prioritize these things.
Meditation is a good tool to deal with anxiety as well, but is hard to master.

Essentially: Write whatever comes to mind until things stop coming to mind. Then, when you are alone in your head, you can relax if you allow yourself to.

[Master Wolf]

I was thinking about this a lot. No wait it was your other post where you said "you cant stop thinking about fixing your life."

But i was retired so i couldnt respond in time ,but anyway.

Dude haha I can relate, and I figured out that for me its an addiction to using my mind.

Trust me, if you spend 30 minutes looking at all the pics in the infp pornsography thread, it will feel the same. It is our urge to get into our left brain, feel clear headed.

However we will feel empty if we just do things concrete like look at photos or the environment, because Fi needs to figure out moral dilemmas.

We have to focus on whats wrong constantly to feel productive.

So I have two points

1) You will do what you are doing, as you have identified, no matter what, because its what you love, even though it doesnt feel good right now for various reasons you could probably figure out

2) take some time to enjoy life, otherwise, you wont figure out shit, becacuse you'll be too negative. If you dont figure out how to relax, then all this figuring out is coming from a negative viewpoint, and ends up being a double edged sword not allowing you to move forward.

However I've seen you actually made some improvement. That is interesting...

[Targus28]

Thanks for your reply dude. Yes, i think some things are working, improving certain things. It just feels so damm unhealthy, like an obsession. I will google into things so much, into so much depth, to try to see what im missing, where im going wrong, some piece of advice that will turn my life around. By the end reading, i figure I'm a bit more knowledgeable on life, i might try to put some of the things into practice, if it doesn't work, ill throw it away. The stuff i've read i suppose just sinks into the back of my mind, and i use this new found knowledge, to work other things out and try to put the jigsaw together. But the jigsaw has 4000 pieces, and the picture is always changing in some of the pieces, so i just try to make sense of some of the pieces. I don't know, it does feel like i have this love to use my mind, to understand myself, life, etc, and how one can improve to become the best of his potential, i guess i have improved in some areas but have a lot to learn still maybe

[Master Wolf]

Yeah I agree 100%, and that makes a lot of sense. Shoot I remember when I first joined perc i logged like 50-75 posts a day for 3 months hahaha. I know there is a lot of information out there that would enable me to "work smarter instead of harder." I mean why waste time just "living" when I can find some bit of information that will allow me to skip 5 steps.

I guess I would just suggest that if I am solid in at least one thing that I don't need to look up constantly, some one value that all these steps are for, then I can at least cut out all the steps that aren't really direct good steps. Like for example when I am around people that play sports, I get all kinds of fired up, I go out on the volleyball court and practice by myself for hours in a rage, because I want to be included and be part of that "winning team and group."

But, well so if I know that I want to be appreciated by others, but I know that I don't really value competition more than cooperation, then I know that worrying about competition isn't really productive, even though it gets me half my goals.

Hmm I guess for me its two goals

1) Making good friends/ family

2) Focusing on cooperation and harmony more than competition and showing off

Wow this actually helped. Weird how our posts about ourself can actually help others huh? haha... glad to see you are doin alright man...

[Zegaray]

I agree OP. I have horrible anxiety and I am now seeing an anxiety specialist. She recommended me some anti anxiety meds that also helps with depression. I have an appointment for my Dr. about it tomorrow.

You should see a anxiety specialist or a psychologist for anxiety it helps a lot to figure out whats going on and how to address it.

[Bago]

Use your functions in a particular manner...

Fi-Ne-Si-Te....

Maybe I don't acknowledge it but it happens naturally, but Fi always dominates....or should rather.

e.g. I have my cousin's family meal get together to celebrate his marriage. I just have this overwhelming sense of love suddenly. My Ne goes into overdrive. I'm concerned. I'm excited. Fi-Ne, Ne-Fi... etc etc. It's like, I think of a subject, lead by Fi, an emotion... and then I find other emotions linked to that emotion... or experiences (si), which links to that emotion too....

I remember the first time I danced salsa, I "felt" so free. Now, kind of like Pavolv's dog... I feel happy. So every time I dance, I feel so happy. I never used to stop to think about it, but recently, I now realises that music are emotional and spiritual and pretty rhymic. So.... it's very expressive. It's really very Fi orientated but I never knew this. Cos I have cried to music before, which is really rare for me.

So you see... continue to do all these "Fi" things... Each time I do something for family, I feel a sense of overwhelmed emotions. Si > Fi.... I can't always do this, but sometimes I take time out and do things in advance. Whether it is writing Christmas cards for family, or creating home made cards (I'm starting this hobby now) or taking photos etc.

You need to find a goal. Do something for someone you know close by before you doing something so much more which affect more people.... Then it will be one Fi...focused, or 2 Fi...focused.. or N Fi focused...

[FiNe SiTe]

I feel your pain. I suffer from anxiety as well.
All I can suggest is keep yourself inspired and immerse yourself in your music pursuits. And just DO IT.
Remind yourself that doing something is better than doing nothing, no matter how small it is.

[Twinkle]

Thanks for your reply dude. Yes, i think some things are working, improving certain things. It just feels so damm unhealthy, like an obsession. I will google into things so much, into so much depth, to try to see what im missing, where im going wrong, some piece of advice that will turn my life around. By the end reading, i figure I'm a bit more knowledgeable on life, i might try to put some of the things into practice, if it doesn't work, ill throw it away. The stuff i've read i suppose just sinks into the back of my mind, and i use this new found knowledge, to work other things out and try to put the jigsaw together. But the jigsaw has 4000 pieces, and the picture is always changing in some of the pieces, so i just try to make sense of some of the pieces. I don't know, it does feel like i have this love to use my mind, to understand myself, life, etc, and how one can improve to become the best of his potential, i guess i have improved in some areas but have a lot to learn still maybe

If you like to read, try reading a book while listening to some spa music. Or try going to a play or a concert.

What you're describing here is normal to our type. It really sounds like you're procrastinating on something. This is definitely your perceiving in high gear. Is there something you're avoiding?

What I do whenever I get in this mode is I come up with a concrete goal and put a deadline on it. The other thing is sometimes you have to give yourself permission to get off track. As far as relieving anxiety, there's an herb called HTP you can get from natural food stores and that works really well for anxiety. St. John's Wort is another one that may work for you.

[doublexuan]

I can relate strong to your anxiety issues. In face I am having it right now. But I think that it is better to have functional anxiety (sort of), like yours. There is anxiety that pushes you to work, even though it is forced out of stress. Then there is the other that paralyse you. I am unable to offer advice but I have little energy with all my anxiety attacks but there is no choice but to ignore it and continue to do the work that is needed, I think.

I hope you have someone to talk to. Not having any support system like me really is a terrible thing.