[Logical Ambivert Feeler]

Have you tried the Linden Method?
ANXIETY / PANIC ATTACKS - THE LINDEN METHOD Elimination Programme - The Linden Method UK

[Kaspa]

Targus28, I see much myself in you. I can't give you advice, since I'm still working on it as well.

Can I ask you, did you happen to have what kind of family background? Were your parents overly-cautious, or didn't care enough?

My mother was/is very fearful person, who sees risks in everything. She is kind of parent that puts helmet on your head when you are running around in the garden. Very traditional ESFJ. I love her as a mother, but feel bitterness that she raised me to be such overly-cautious person.

[cloudcompeller]

@Targus28

My anxiety is always rooted from my fear that everything is not under control. I have had experiences thinking how might than happen or what if...those kinds of questions. I've always feel restless, feeling that I should have all my work done as soon as possible, but at that time I don't realise it's not what my heart wanted. Productive it may seem, but feeling unhappy and stressful.

Now, I always tell myself I can do it. Think about it - worrying doesn't produce anything on its own, and it itself is not a type of motivation. Anxiety should only appear in appropriate time like during the last few minutes in exam. If actually you have time, put down you anxiety and relax. Stop everything you are doing now, even stop surfing the internet and keep everything down and quiet (but finished reading this first :) ) Just give yourself a moment of peace and listen to the 'sound' of quiet surrounding you.

I understand it's hard but really try to think what anxiety has done to you. Tell yourself you can get everything's done. You know you can, you have the ability. Think that as a challenge you are willing to accept. Think like you are a hero - slay the dragon and save the princess. I sometimes tell myself 'So what?' Do it man! Results won't be immediate, and you need a strong will consistently. Last thing, mediation and its music might help. But I guess you mind is now like a stormy sea...but try it out, that helps me a bit. And don't do anything else when listening to the music.

[Flora]

I've always been against medication. I used to believe that you just pull yourself together and that a pill won't change your mind.

This was up until anxiety started to have a real negative impact in my life and well being. Now I pop a pill a day and the background of my mind has changed from low level constant fear/anxiety/concern/negativity to a much more empty space that feels like content, sometimes even happiness.

I hate to admit the medication works and I hate to rely on it, but my quality of life has improved. Maybe you could see a gp and have a chat, maybe counselling will do?

[Promethea]

Ya know, music and dj'ing are S type activities. They are awesome I agree though.

This is a ridiculous stereotype. Its not -what- you do, but how you do it. This is another reason I prefer socionics. There are no claims that all xxxx are into whatever, and can't be into whatever. They don't even try to say that certain types have to go into certain careers.

[Targus28]

Targus28, I see much myself in you. I can't give you advice, since I'm still working on it as well.

Can I ask you, did you happen to have what kind of family background? Were your parents overly-cautious, or didn't care enough?

My mother was/is very fearful person, who sees risks in everything. She is kind of parent that puts helmet on your head when you are running around in the garden. Very traditional ESFJ. I love her as a mother, but feel bitterness that she raised me to be such overly-cautious person.

Oh man, my childhood was pretty fooked.Ive suppressed a lot of it, and i think it comes out in me in unhealthy ways.My Mum was and still is, an Aholic, my Dad, a work Aholic.I was born 1986, i got told they left me 2 weeks after i was born to go on holiday for a few weeks, doesn't surprise me.My Dad was always working, my mum, always drinking.I remember a few details, one sticks out.My Dad picked me and my sister up from school, i must of been about 8, my sister 6.We came into the hallway with my Mother sprawled across the floor, cuts on her wrists, blood everywhere, drunk, shouting, glass and things everywhere.Other night she use to go out walking, drunk, i remember one night me my sister, and Dad went out looking for her, finding her in a ditch, drunk, mumbling, a mess.Why my Dad took me and my sister along,being so young, i don't know.Another time, i came down to my mum having an affair, with another guy on the sofa, i was about 7.My Dad out working long hours.Not a nice site, i hate her for that.She use to cheat on my Dad a lot, and had a full blown affair with another guy for years until he got her calls tapped and found out.At 16/17, they both divorced, was after they went away to Cuba on holiday, and my Dad tried to hang himself in the hotel.He developed manic depressed.He tried to kill my Mum and himself in a car, by trying to crash it too.Man, there's so much, like i said, I've suppressed a lot of it.I don't dwell on the past, but i'm intelligent enough to know, that has made me who i am today, with my problems.One can not just overcome these problems with a click of a finger.I don't think about the past everyday, i look forward.But like i said, the problems that have stemmed from my childhood, are what i am today, and I'm not the most healthy person

[Targus28]

I've always been against medication. I used to believe that you just pull yourself together and that a pill won't change your mind.

This was up until anxiety started to have a real negative impact in my life and well being. Now I pop a pill a day and the background of my mind has changed from low level constant fear/anxiety/concern/negativity to a much more empty space that feels like content, sometimes even happiness.

I hate to admit the medication works and I hate to rely on it, but my quality of life has improved. Maybe you could see a gp and have a chat, maybe counselling will do?

Counseling, done it.Helped, like a plaster over a wound, as soon as it stopped, back to normal.Counseling doesn't get to the root cause, its just talk therapy, to unload your mind.I'm on a waiting list for Psychotherapy, gonna be about 10 months.Meds do work, purely because they numb you, leaving u space to carry on.There by no means a long term fix thou and i WONT be on them for life

[Steppenwolf2]

Yeah, I had fear filled childhood though not as bad as yours, but I know I have been anxious since I was conscious of my existence. In regards of anxiety when you do not do things that you think you should be doing - my best guess is that you are anxious of how far and how fast you will get there where you want to get with you music, it was same with other things with me - like with school or searching for a job -there was always anxiety and guilt to relax to watch something and read something enjoyable. I even avoided working during college and my masters from fear that (for which I am paying price now in this economy) I will not have all A's, and therefore I will ultimately fail as a student (not very logical I know - no anxiety is).

Though, my anxiety was under control until several months ago. I went to counseling too - and it was not enough. It helped me discover some causes of my anxiety. However, when counseling sessions were stopped –my anxiety did not, same story like with you. I think that I am anxious even when I do not have any reason to be anxious at all - I do not even need a reason for it - it is there because of the negative thoughts not because of negative events. However, I am now under enormous amount of stress; rarely, when stress is not there anxiety still lingers. I feel bombarded from all sides. Being E6 does not help because one always has to be in control of situations and people (not to control people, but how you feel toward them and their opinions of you).

Counselors at least in the U.S. get 2 years of training (in most cases) after Bachelor's degree, and that is not enough to help you with deep seated issues that you have. I think you could benefit from cognitive-behavioral therapy done by someone who is specially trained to do this and has at least PhD in psychology. I think that you were told this before, but there is nothing that I know of that works better according to what my teacher a clinical psychologist thought us and numerous articles I researched (thoughts influence how we feel or act – negative thoughts ---lead to----negative behaviors [such as anxiety which is covert type of behavior]; If you can afford it, seek cognitive behavioral therapy, I would if I had health insurance. Is that the psychotherapy you are talking about? See it as an investement in your future. You already tried some meds and had some problems with side-effects as did I. I know how you feel, you are not alone in your anxiety, and it is nothing strange, actually, more common than one might think. No matter how people think that is a natural environment for human kind, it is not; it is very stressful environment for everybody. Some people cope differently and some live in denial. Others behave like pack animals would - they think that human societies as they are nowadays are normal, and everybody should fight through physical or psychological means to get that piece of meat. An INFP would see some serious ethical issues with such set of mind.

I think that you would need a plan - "I will do this from this time to this time" (if something happens plan how to catch up - plan for unpredictable situations that impede on your previously set plan); I will enjoy reading, PerC, girlfriend time, going out time, TV – for this specific amount of time (plan for each day and hours dedicated to it). Relaxation comes from enjoying something otherwise your anxiety will impede when you want to work on your music. Do you have a space where you can work on it and nobody intrudes? I have this problem where I cannot isolate to do certain things that I need to do, and everything that others at home do makes me overwhelmed to go according to the plan, every noise. Do not take any ounce of alcohol if you are on any drug for anxiety (alcohol depresses people while temporarily makes them feel good, but works opposite to antidepressants – many people would take beer thinking this is not dangerous or this will not harm me, and it is hard to avoid while in company because in many cultures, it is like drinking a glass of water) and it is dangerous if taken together.
I hope you feel better!

[Master Wolf]

This is a ridiculous stereotype. Its not -what- you do, but how you do it. This is another reason I prefer socionics. There are no claims that all xxxx are into whatever, and can't be into whatever. They don't even try to say that certain types have to go into certain careers.

No idea what you mean by ridiculous.

There is nothing wrong with stereotyping.

There is something wrong with being insensitive.

It is not always insensitive to stereotype.

Music and art is great, but, unless he finds a way to channel his Fi through it he will have problems, and it is harder for an N (stereotype) to do than an S.

Obviously my statements should be seen in light of talking to the OP and not everyone.

:)

[Targus28]

unless he finds a way to channel his Fi through it he will have problems, and it is harder for an N (stereotype) to do than an S.


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