[niki]

I'm useless in this "real world"....I'm such a f*cking impractical, too imaginative person...

[Word Dispenser]

(WARNING: below this line you will read perhaps the ultimate most 'arrogant' (or whatever it is you'll call) BIG, general rants on the "BIGGER-picture" things ever. and contrary to many threads on this forum, no, this won't be about small boyfriend/girlfriend little problems, nor about problems at school, at work, etc etc. no, this is a rant about Humanity as a whole. so please proceed only if you're ready and have a BIG HEART to read & 'swallow' my frustrated and RAW, HONEST, no BS-and-sugarcoat rants below!....thank you.)


I think it's quite sad & unfortunate of how I've spent like 80% of my life nowadays resenting humanity/mankind at large.

Yes,..I've successfully becoming a misanthrope now, and also disillusioned and feeling largely disconnected from not just society (with often its silly, meaningless, and petty rules & norms & sick, twisted values or "images"), but from human beings as well! (with few exceptions for example: the philosophers, the Thinkers, the true, HONEST, and wise people, artists, that unfortunately seems to be FEW, often ridiculed, and scattered across this otherwise lovely blue planet).
In fact, I feel somehow much more connected to the animals, than humans nowadays!

Humans are, mostly, sadly, hopeless creatures...we're destroying our own Planet, animals, and even killing our fellow species over some stupid, close-minded, most ignorant & selfish, senseless reasons..



I'm a misanthrope...a 30 yrs old misanthrope coming from Asia.
humanity and society nowadays are mostly so fucked-up, that I don't even know where I can start to describe it..
everything I see and hear nowadays is just basically so reek of superficiality, greed, shallowness, meaninglessness,
yes..that last word is the most important: MEANINGLESSNESS in all human's daily-lives activities, business, all the conflicts, especially little conflicts, all the superficial & shallow adorations, political bickering, constant gossiping, celebrity-whoring, money-whoring and shallow-mindedness, etc etc.

it's sad because I used to believe and have Hope (and somewhat still though..although diminishing quite rapidly) that human beings (humanity) can be and do much much MORE than our current state (of "evolution", or whatever that is)! but instead, we humans often choose to repeat the same mistakes of choosing the SHALLOW, SHORT-TERM thinking and paths, and hence, all the constant endless wars, hatred, meaningless little bickering & conflicts here and there, all for NOTHING! and only to satisfy their human's little EGOs!

that's all I can say about humanity and this so-called "Reality" we're currently living in...
sad but true..
so you ask me, how can I NOT become a misanthrope?..
heck, I hate most jobs, still living with my parents, and just basically hate almost everything in this shallow superficial so-called "earthly reality".
I often feel like I don't belong on this planet, and belong to other planet, feeling like an alien..(or maybe I am?...there's some crazy theories about this though..often wish they were true..).
I am doomed.
please get me out of this matrix...I can't fuckin' stand any longer!!

Can anybody relate with me here?..or I'm just being alone here?

(PS: sorry if I sound like I'm 'above' humanity or something like that, but the real honest truth is: I do in fact sometimes feel like that! I won't lie and sugar-coat any longer. perhaps because I'm just basically tired of being constantly associated with these petty, shallow human beings with their meaningless "sheeple & ignorant" daily-routinity like machines/robots and many reasons I've stated above!.. I wish I could ascend and become one with God, and leave this rotten planet..it's sad because like the genius George Carlin once said: "the planet is fine, the people are fucked." , and he's a misanthrope as well...now I can totally relate & understand why he thinks like that!..).

Wheee!

The Venus Project

Some people are trying to make a difference. Let's progress towards a better tomorrow, instead of moping about today. The system is obviously wrong. Let's try to make it right!

I only cite the Venus Project as a good example. I think there could be better solutions. The point is to get people together to try to make changes that can make things better, instead of pointing out the flaws in solutions. At least change what doesn't work, into a better model, y'know what I'm sayin'?

Just ideas.

Maybe this will make you feel better.

I know it might seem like these visions of the future are an enormous change-- but I think they're possible. It's only people thinking that improvement isn't possible that keeps us in stagnation.

[Juni Guzman]

Hey niki I hope your doing well. I just wanted to show some support to you and your current state of mind and tell you this is what we have to go through as we idealist grow older. I went through somewhat of the same feelings about a year ago.

I use to be a nice easy going guy until reality gave me a good beat down. I went from the most thoughtful person you could ever know to the most withdrawn and resentful person you could come across. What occurred was I came to realize that the people around me looked at me as an innocent fool and someone to step all over. What I thought was me being a good and caring person I found was just a laughing stock. I lost hope for anything I believed and felt like a good for nothing especially when some of the people I found scoffing were people I truly believed in. I found myself alone and lost. Without knowing where to turn I just began to retracted myself from everyone and everything. This didn't help the situation. I started going down a hole that today I'm still working on getting out of. I had the worst thoughts plaguing my mind and wouldn't let me rest. With my habit of doing research for entertainment I found out about SPD (Schizoid Personality Disorder) and I came to the conclusion that this is what I was becoming.

After going as low as I finally felt I'd let myself go I decided to do something. My mind going around 1000 miles/hr I began make changes. Little changes that helped my mind change gears. From working out, eating different, getting healthier taking supplements that I researched for different conditions. I found it exciting and helpful all the things that I could find for anxiety, depression, intruding thoughts and lots of other things all of which I could buy at the store or online. This was the beginning of what I call "ME". Now I'm still working on becoming a better me but I'm far from where I was before.

My suggestion to you is start looking inside for what your mind and body is asking for. Not what you want for the rest but what you really want for "YOU"! It's not going to come to you in a blink of an eye because as we are use to only thinking of others and not ourselves. It'll come slow and steady. You have to break many habits of caring for others before yourself but it's the only way you can become an effective person. You can't help anyone if you haven't helped yourself first. That was something that was difficult for me to except as I always wanted credit from others. I learned I had to be the one that loved myself and give me credit for who I am and what I stood for. No one is more important than yourself in the long run especially I feel when your an INFP with all your genuine caring and values. It's about that time Nik. I hope this helps you at all.

I found this link and that shows the phases INFPs go through in life and their process of growing. I found it quite interesting and true in my case. It might also help shed some light. http: // personality junkie. com/ the-infp/

[Bago]

Life is what we are dealt with... unfortunately.
I'm currently reading this site is getting some travel bug feeling again.... :)
Personal Growth/Spirituality | Chicky Bus

I ditto the comment made about your own world being "shaken" down. I used to see my extended family as my own family and gave it strong ties. But when that trust was broken, or rather, when my sister said to me that my extended family is NOT my real family, and that I should stop my emotional ties with them cos of her annoyance of me ignoring her. This broke me too. I felt disloyal, and yet, my own ESTJ mother would make me feel anxious and had always been with her very controlling ways. I am also certain that I displaced some emotions somewhere at some point too, but you know what, it does not matter, cos what happened next was almost like rebelling against bad karmas. I went to seek the whole idea of "love", what is love, and what is true love. Everywhere I go, I seek and ask people what they mean as loving or love. I see motherly love in people, and care and concern. In a way, I went on my own "truth seeking" journey. Did my mother love me? Truly? Well, it is from experiencing this anthropology trip that allowed me to get a sense that my mother did love me, in her own way, the best that she could. It's under those kind of understanding that I eventually let go of her abandonment action of yester years. What I gained though in travelling, and in talking to people, is psychology, people, understanding.

Everybody sometimes find that fighting anger, or way, and reset the karma in a way. I mean, we all do it sometimes. Maybe for one reason or another, you came to your own sense that your idealistic way is indeed something that you want to pursue.... so maybe now is an opportunity ? Cos if anything, you need to question your own ideology and if you can actually work against that. It's funny, but you got to let the ESTJ trigger to come through for you, and fight. You just have to. I hope that you will let it come forward, cos sometimes it is needed to help you make that first challenging step.

Let yourself be free, and be adventurous and try... Take some trips out somewhere and explore the music, or visit music festivals, anything that really touches your heart's desire. It will make you feel so alive. :)

[au contraire]

Your problem isn't other people, although they certainly are A problem in the bigger picture of life on earth. But your problem is finding your place, your path amidst all of this hellish chaos. This focus on others is all just a distraction from the real problem, the one person you can change. Its easy to blame others, but what have you changed about Niki? You are still doing everything the same as always, working and living in an unsatisfying place and way, never changing anything and never being happy with where you are at. You are looking for someone else to blame, to distract you from the difficulties facing you. I don't mean to seem harsh, I sympathize with your perceptions and have felt all of them myself many times, and have been in your shoes. But I know I can't do anything about them. I can only be me, and I can only change myself and my actions, and bite off small manageable pieces of the world that I can change. And I can't blame the world for all my failures even though I want to, that's too easy.

[IcarusDreams]

(WARNING: below this line you will read perhaps the ultimate most 'arrogant' (or whatever it is you'll call) BIG, general rants on the "BIGGER-picture" things ever. and contrary to many threads on this forum, no, this won't be about small boyfriend/girlfriend little problems, nor about problems at school, at work, etc etc. no, this is a rant about Humanity as a whole. so please proceed only if you're ready and have a BIG HEART to read & 'swallow' my frustrated and RAW, HONEST, no BS-and-sugarcoat rants below!....thank you.) You realize it sounds arrogant, and indeed it does. Don't feel attacked, but feeling superior to your fellow human beings because you can see and appreciate things others don't is not healthy for yourself and others. In the end, you are just like them, like it or not-not a superior life-form beneath humanity. You are a great person because you were born one-NOT because others lack some "special insight" about how the world "should be run."


I think it's quite sad & unfortunate of how I've spent like 80% of my life nowadays resenting humanity/mankind at large. It is sad indeed-you should try to reverse that and make up for all the wasted time. It's time to work for your dreams, rather than to dwell on what's "wrong" in the world and in others.

Yes,..I've successfully becoming a misanthrope now, and also disillusioned and feeling largely disconnected from not just society (with often its silly, meaningless, and petty rules & norms & sick, twisted values or "images"), but from human beings as well! (with few exceptions for example: the philosophers, the Thinkers, the true, HONEST, and wise people, artists, that unfortunately seems to be FEW, often ridiculed, and scattered across this otherwise lovely blue planet).
In fact, I feel somehow much more connected to the animals, than humans nowadays! This comment implies that whoever doesn't think like you isn't an honest individual, nor a good philosopher or thinker/artist. Indeed, it's saying that having any other opinion other than yours is the opposite of honesty and integrity. I reiterate that misanthropyis an ironic position, given that you are a human as well, and not beyond anybody-I repeat, Mr. Niki, you are just the same as everybody else is, as hard a pill that may be to swallow (you think/feel differently, but that doesn't automatically turns you into the "superior" human being-fact.)

Humans are, mostly, sadly, hopeless creatures...we're destroying our own Planet, animals, and even killing our fellow species over some stupid, close-minded, most ignorant & selfish, senseless reasons.. Humans have made so many sad mistakes throughout history, and they keep making them again and again, but they are hardly hopeless-your viewpoint about their hopelessness, however "realistic" it is in your eyes, it's the one that lacks hope for them, for it is not that they are hopeless, but that you aren't hoping for any better.



I'm a misanthrope...a 30 yrs old misanthrope coming from Asia.
humanity and society nowadays are mostly so fucked-up, that I don't even know where I can start to describe it..
everything I see and hear nowadays is just basically so reek of superficiality, greed, shallowness, meaninglessness,
yes..that last word is the most important: MEANINGLESSNESS in all human's daily-lives activities, business, all the conflicts, especially little conflicts, all the superficial & shallow adorations, political bickering, constant gossiping, celebrity-whoring, money-whoring and shallow-mindedness, etc etc. You know, Niki, I hear these things a lot from many other people too, but somehow I don't heir it too? I live in the same world you do, even NYC, but I don't pay attention to any of that. I am not saying that you should be like me (for you don't), but emphsasizing that we often put too much attention to things that don't relate to us. Let them be who they are, and you be who you are, rather than complaining about the way the world is run. I mostly reject their rules too, but why make them so much the focus of your attention? Shouldn't the focus be what you wish to do with your dreams, rather than what everybody tends to enjoy and like to do-whether it is "right" or not?

it's sad because I used to believe and have Hope (and somewhat still though..although diminishing quite rapidly) that human beings (humanity) can be and do much much MORE than our current state (of "evolution", or whatever that is)! but instead, we humans often choose to repeat the same mistakes of choosing the SHALLOW, SHORT-TERM thinking and paths, and hence, all the constant endless wars, hatred, meaningless little bickering & conflicts here and there, all for NOTHING! and only to satisfy their human's little EGOs! Some humans are selfish, but others do actually find value in things you deem shallow. Do you dare to tell me that your life viewpoint must be better than them due to this? In your case, this is a form of elitism, although not necessarily typism. As an INFP, you are not a "superior" life form. You are just a human with different preferences. Again, why not leave them in peace and concentrate in your life? Isn't there much beautiful things you can be creating and doing with your abilities? You have much to offer to this world, friend, rather than focusing in a "me vs the world" mentality, which is, quite frankly, depressing you and even hindering you from achieving what you are supposed to treasure more in life-your own dreams.

that's all I can say about humanity and this so-called "Reality" we're currently living in...
sad but true..
so you ask me, how can I NOT become a misanthrope?.. I ask you, why should you become one, if you, as a human, are the same as everybody else? You sometimes deem yourself as different from all the other humans, which is one of the lies in your line of thinking. You are just the same as all of those criminals and "shallow" people you so despise. I don't think you should hate yourself, so therefore, you shouldn't be a misanthrope. You should instead love them and accept them-even when you disagree with them-, and work so that you can be a beautiful and positive force in humanity, rather than one who wallows in depression, focusing on the dark rather than on the light (there is light that you are refusing to see, my friend.)
heck, I hate most jobs, still living with my parents, and just basically hate almost everything in this shallow superficial so-called "earthly reality". All of this has nothing to do with the "condition of humanity", and you can overcome all of this in time.
I often feel like I don't belong on this planet, and belong to other planet, feeling like an alien..(or maybe I am?...there's some crazy theories about this though..often wish they were true..). You belong in here. You are just like me, not better, nor worse. You are free to beleive in anything, that is your right. But let me tell you, you are not alien or beyond humanity jsut because you may be a misunderstood minority. Being rare doesn't make you superior, even though you are indeed unique. You are human-those creatures you like to hate. You will find your own palce, for there is a palce for you, but it is a place you must find, and not let others define for yourself-but understand that in the end, we are all of the same blood.
I am doomed.
please get me out of this matrix...I can't fuckin' stand any longer!! Only you can, not me. Will you make a stand for your own dreams? If you can't stand it, why stay idle and not do something about your own happiness?

Can anybody relate with me here?..or I'm just being alone here? You are not alone, dear Niki, but the place you are at (the way you are thinking things through) isn't ideal, so even if millions of people were just like you, what help would it be? I can emphathize with your frustration, but cannot relate nor agree with you feeling superior than everybody else, because, I repeat, you are not. Special, amazing, worthy of being super happy, talented, yes. But superior than your fellow human beings, no, you really aren't.

(PS: sorry if I sound like I'm 'above' humanity or something like that, but the real honest truth is: I do in fact sometimes feel like that! I won't lie and sugar-coat any longer. perhaps because I'm just basically tired of being constantly associated with these petty, shallow human beings with their meaningless "sheeple & ignorant" daily-routinity like machines/robots and many reasons I've stated above!.. I wish I could ascend and become one with God, and leave this rotten planet..it's sad because like the genius George Carlin once said: "the planet is fine, the people are fucked." , and he's a misanthrope as well...now I can totally relate & understand why he thinks like that!..). There's no sugar-coating being done when people think differently than you. Do you dare to tell me that I am a sugar coater myself just because I keep following my dream, no matter what happens or my circumstances are? Be wary of not letting a defeated attitude become your "realistic" approach, for I fear that such a thing isn't anything less than sheer pesimism. You have much to offer to this beautiful world, and should start now. I am not asking you to have my life viewpoints, but just to keep your own while respecting everybody else's right to be themselves. And to focus on all the beauty you are capable of, rather than in the supposed "darkness" of everybody else.

My comments have been made in bolded italics above. I mean well, but I needed to be direct at times. Hope Mr. Niki nor everybody else is offended, as I only wish the best for everybody in here.

Beautiful people should make beautiful things, rather than being paralyzed by the non-beautiful things they may encounter in life. Let's make the world even more beautiful than it is, by living a highly motivated and inspiring life. Life is a beautiful jorney, and definitely not a dark affair for me, and I hope it will be similar for everybody else, 'cause all of you deserve to live happily. :)

[Nienna]

You know, when I think about everything that is wrong in the world, I can't help but hope that, if we manage not to kill ourselves first, humanity will one day evolve past such condition and finally achieve harmony among ourselves and with nature. Even if it's a process for thousands of years.

I feel very naive to think like that, but... can anyone accurately tell what the future may bring, anyway?
I honestly believe we're living in a convoluted changing point ... and even though we're still repeating mistake after mistake, I do believe in human capacity of learning. After all more than ever old values, the status quo... are being questioned... so, something good must come out of it?

[Psydog]

Human may sometimes want to have more power and dominant than the commoner but there are still human which are pure like child who doesnt know anything "dirty" humanity yet. I find there are still hope in humanity

[Cemon]

I understand your situation and feel you are not a blind human like others seeing only rosy things in name of development where destruction of planet taking place. You can find solutions and people to like but what change it gonna make ? Changing yourself wont help as problem is with Human race. They are killing our planet for foolish reason. The food you eating is a sacrifice of a creature.

People will ask you to look at good areas but it wont change the fact that worse is happening every second. Facts are facts and just because there is new Iphone or men discovered Higgs particle it doesnt mean world isnt cruel anymore.



Niki if you still feel the same then PM me. Because I do and will be.

[Justin Opmeer]

Thank god these people did not give up as easily.