[thehigher]

that's a physiological reaction unchanged for 40000 years, I say enjoy it, it's just part of the process

Yea...love hate relationship I have with that feeling. Thanks for the insight though.

[PeacePassion]

I was talking to my gf? friend with benefits? person? about how the english language does not seem to communicate emotion effectively. I feel so tied down in this language. My gffriendwithbenifitsperson is half russian and speaks the language fluently.....andd she loves it. So yea.. i dunno. Do you feel that way?

haha,

gffriendwithbenifitsperson

there's a good example right there, language wise! i am all for the making up of words for this reason! language anarchy, WOOOO!

anyway, yeah i definitely feel that way, i've noticed that as i've learnt different foreign languages, it's like i can see the world in a whole new way! it's like looking through differently distorted binoculars or something... and that's part of what i love about foreign languages. just as they say, so much can be lost in translation, and sometimes there's really no translation at all. i hadn't thought about it terms of communicating emotion, but i can totally see that, seems true to me. i've heard english really sucks as a language, lol. i'm just glad i didn't have to learn it as a second language, would be a really crappy language to have to learn i think!! though of course english has it's beauty too.

it's amazing how much is embedded and transfered in language... culture, vision, wisdom... emotion.. and it's also amazing how much language can limit our perception and experience of the world too.

as a side note, i've noticed that many INFPs seem to get along well with people from different countries and cultures, perhaps that ability to empathetically connect helps. or maybe that empathetic connection is necessary to really connect with someone from a different language background, and that ensures depth of relating, which it's probably safe to say most INFPs want, so it makes sense in that way too!

[snail]

My best friend in the sixth grade didn't speak much English, and I didn't speak any Korean, so we communicated by drawing pictures on note cards for a while. :)
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[thehigher]

haha, there's a good example right there, language wise! i am all for the making up of words for this reason! language anarchy, WOOOO!

anyway, yeah i definitely feel that way, i've noticed that as i've learnt different foreign languages, it's like i can see the world in a whole new way! it's like looking through differently distorted binoculars or something... and that's part of what i love about foreign languages. just as they say, so much can be lost in translation, and sometimes there's really no translation at all. i hadn't thought about it terms of communicating emotion, but i can totally see that, seems true to me. i've heard english really sucks as a language, lol. i'm just glad i didn't have to learn it as a second language, would be a really crappy language to have to learn i think!! though of course english has it's beauty too.

it's amazing how much is embedded and transfered in language... culture, vision, wisdom... emotion.. and it's also amazing how much language can limit our perception and experience of the world too.

as a side note, i've noticed that many INFPs seem to get along well with people from different countries and cultures, perhaps that ability to empathetically connect helps. or maybe that empathetic connection is necessary to really connect with someone from a different language background, and that ensures depth of relating, which it's probably safe to say most INFPs want, so it makes sense in that way too!

YES I have totally noticed your last paragraph there as well. ....I've been wondering if people from other countries are just more intuitive. I was wondering if there had been any case studies, surveys, etc. concerning mbti in other countries.

[Blueguardian]

I had also wondered about the MBTI makeup in other countries. It was the first thing I tried to find information on after I got into MBTI. I don't recall finding any really convincing evidence though. Spotty research when I looked. Perhaps someone from another country on PC could help out with this?

[thehigher]

I had also wondered about the MBTI makeup in other countries. It was the first thing I tried to find information on after I got into MBTI. I don't recall finding any really convincing evidence though. Spotty research when I looked. Perhaps someone from another country on PC could help out with this?

anddd this is why I've decided to major in psychology and do research.

[PeacePassion]

YES I have totally noticed your last paragraph there as well. ....I've been wondering if people from other countries are just more intuitive. I was wondering if there had been any case studies, surveys, etc. concerning mbti in other countries.

hmmm, it would be interesting to see the different personality type demographics in different cultures, for sure! but i suspect, like, when we meet foreigners in our own country it might be a sort of forced awareness or consciousness, even if someone's not usually especially intuitive you know? like, they have to be, or it helps to get by if they can develop their intuition when trying to get along in a foreign country, if that makes any sense! like, it helps to get past the language barrier. maybe. just a guess.

[thehigher]

hmmm, it would be interesting to see the different personality type demographics in different cultures, for sure! but i suspect, like, when we meet foreigners in our own country it might be a sort of forced awareness or consciousness, even if someone's not usually especially intuitive you know? like, they have to be, or it helps to get by if they can develop their intuition when trying to get along in a foreign country, if that makes any sense! like, it helps to get past the language barrier. maybe. just a guess.

Ahhh sorry...I don't think I understand.

[Nym]

I was talking to my gf? friend with benefits? person? about how the english language does not seem to communicate emotion effectively. I feel so tied down in this language. My gffriendwithbenifitsperson is half russian and speaks the language fluently.....andd she loves it. So yea.. i dunno. Do you feel that way?

English is excellent for emotion, their are several different words for the same thing that each convey a certain emotional connotation. Don't blame the tool for you feelings of inadequacy using it, it does you a disservice and will only lead to further frustration. It's not the languages fault more an issue of having issues translating your emotion into a rational framework. You seem to have issues not with language, or emotion but mainly understanding yourself from a rational prospective. Reason being one of the most direct tools for communication you often feel constricted by your inability to communicate what your really thinking. You know what your really feeling, but feeling is just another type of thought. Thought that you are not consciously aware of, so you need to learn how to figure out what it is your feeling from a rational prospective. Then you can convey your message and the exact emotional connotation through speech and accurate vocabulary. (At least that's what I get from reading your posts.) Don't take it personally, I don't think that it's an issue of being incapable just out of practice. Why would you be out of practice, I don't know. But I know you can do it. It might even make things easier. This is the only post that I really felt I might be able to contribute some helpful advice on so far so I hope it helps.

[PeacePassion]

Ahhh sorry...I don't think I understand.

lol i could very well be not making any sense. definite possibility...(!) i guess i thought you were saying foreigners seem more intuitive, but i thought that might just be because they are maybe actively fighting a language barrier, so tapping into intuition probably helps, so maybe they come across as more intuitive or something.