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This is a discussion on all the pain in the world within the INFP Forum - The Idealists forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; it starts off feeling someone else's pain. then you're reminded of your own. then somehow you tap into the collective ...

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    INFP - The Idealists

    all the pain in the world

    it starts off feeling someone else's pain. then you're reminded of your own. then somehow you tap into the collective unconscious pain and you feel like nuclear waste pumps through your veins and your very existence begins to feel like a vice grip on your soul, and in those moments, in you is manifest all the pain in the world.



    we infps must have a very high pain tolerance. but why? what good does it do? do we somehow lighten the load for others by feeling their pain? does it teach us something? is it what makes and keeps us highly sensitive? i'd feel better about having to endure it if there was some meaning behind the experience. maybe i should just pretend there's meaning, whatever i need to tell myself, if it helps me endure.

    this seems to happen with every emotion. pain. sadness. fear. even good emotions, like joy, ecstasy, and love. though the good ones seems to happen less often.

    anyone else experience this?
    Last edited by PeacePassion; 07-08-2009 at 01:02 AM. Reason: spelling
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    INFP - The Idealists

    There is too much disconnect in the world. There has to be some people out there to remind everyone that people are people the world around and empathy is the driving reminder for those people. Also, an intimate relationship with pain serves to emphasize the necessity for pleasure. Otherwise, humans will just kill each other for being born on opposite sides of the planet.

    More personally, I want to influence those around me for the better. What you've stated is the best tools I have available, and I've seen it when it was exactly what someone needed. I just find it hard to accept I can't save everyone.

    maybe i should just pretend there's meaning, whatever i need to tell myself, if it helps me endure.
    Maybe it's what I'm doing. I don't know. I can only do so much with the facts I've given. I'm exploring life and my views will change and grow as I do and as I acquire more facts. The rest is interpretation.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by Psilo View Post
    More personally, I want to influence those around me for the better. What you've stated is the best tools I have available, and I've seen it when it was exactly what someone needed. I just find it hard to accept I can't save everyone.
    that's true for me too. if feeling so intensely has allowed me to be there for someone in those deepest darkest moments where others fear to go, then i'm glad i was prepared. though it sucks to not be able to do it for them, or save them, though sometimes i think we all just need a witness to give us strength for the journey. if that makes sense. a kind, understanding word at the bottom of the barrel. well, more than that, but, you know. and i've learned saving someone is not the point, ultimately we all have to save ourselves. i think a true healer teaches someone else how to heal themselves, more than magically heals them. but i think we all 'get by with a little help from our friends' as the song goes.

    cool, thanks for the ideas.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by PeacePassion View Post
    it starts off feeling someone else's pain. then you're reminded of your own. then somehow you tap into the collective unconscious pain and you feel like nuclear waste pumps through your veins and your very existence begins to feel like a vice grip on your soul, and in those moments, in you is manifest all the pain in the world.
    PTS dear, I hear you.



    kittens help
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by pianopraze View Post
    PTS dear, I hear you.



    kittens help
    That made me smile. x3

    And I know what you mean, PeacePassion. Or, at least I sorta do.
    Last edited by Clairière de Seigle; 07-08-2009 at 08:57 PM.
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Wow.

    That fucking sucks.

    Anyone know the suicide rate on INFP's?

    That sounds like a shit ass life, and I'd love to help in any way that I can >.<
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinaswell View Post
    Wow. That fucking sucks. Anyone know the suicide rate on INFP's?

    That sounds like a shit ass life, and I'd love to help in any way that I can >.<
    On the flip side the world is alive. You feel everything. As much a problem as it can be I would not trade it for anything.
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Well I mean.....

    Like. I enjoy things. A lot. Emotionally as well. And holy crap the fact that the world is alive makes me smile.

    But.....all that terrible stuff.......no.

    Nothing like that at all.

    Even being as aware as I am how fucking stupid and fucked up the world is >.< I'm still glad.

    Like.....that just sounded so intense. And so incredibly unpleasant >.< I feel bad. :(
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinaswell View Post
    Like. I enjoy things. A lot. Emotionally as well. And holy crap the fact that the world is alive makes me smile.

    Like.....that just sounded so intense. And so incredibly unpleasant >.< I feel bad. :(
    We surround ourselves with the peaceful and beautiful to shield us from the world.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    This kind of reminds me of a book called, "Pucker" ... I just hope nobody feels or sees things to that extent.

    And Pianopraze is right. The peaceful and beautiful is what keeps us going, I suppose. Or, our fantasy worlds. -shrugs-
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