[tremolo tone]

I wonder where on earth did I imply that we make the best world leaders. I mentioned mostly about inspiring others and understanding the feelings of others when it is useful.

You didnt, but many INFPs say something like this every now and then on Internet.

Types don't matter? *Raises eyebrow* Weird, coming from someone who appears bent on only looking at one point of view towards INFP.

Correct if I'm wrong about what you meant.

Im indeed criticizing those few points; I dont claim theyre the only ones. Some INFPs just seem so arrogant its hard to tell what they really are.

So, are you trying to imply that only you and who you call ''your people'' are capable of making fair judgments without any flaw?

No, just that you need to use the same methods in order to perform in certain positions.

It depends on the situations. When it comes to serious decision making that involve society, I would have to be logical. When it comes to personal cases, I would have to use intuition, even some imagination if necessary and mix them with rationality.

And where does the rationality end? Does it not can be the master who says whats true from the others, and if not, why?

Wow, seriously aren't you the one who posted something about most INFP's finding it hard to make a living out of poetry? INFP's are not just poets, they're writers too. So you're going to degrade the creative works of most writers, poets who have inspired others just because of your narcissism? Writing that has promoted growth, talked about relationships mean nothing to you because, hey, feelings make a human weak. LOL. Might as well throw your heart out, kid.

Just because you have had bad experiences with some INFP's, it doesn't mean your judgments are valid for you to paint ALL INFP's with the same brush. Grow up.

No, Im not judging all INFPs, basically Im just saying that a large number of INFPs are unhealthy and choose to remain so, but still demand their unhealthiness to be pampered. A healthy INFP is one who has made peace with the establishment and doesnt give up every time something does not go according to their perfect aesthetic vision. And at the same time, even some healthy INFPs try to convince some people these are healthy individuals, who would bring only goodness in positions of power.

[rebornintheglory]

Against unnecessary ESTJ bashing.

tremolo, you have a point in that INFPs are very good at judging people based on a lot of stupid superficial things. When we meet people who are not 'nice', or who as you've said, dress in some particular way or do or say things that hurt our precious feelings, and we can very easily write them off as people we want nothing to do with. It's nice to sit in our secret tree house with the 'no INFP bashers allowed' sign having from the window. I do this very much. I am aware it is not what us 'nice' INFPs are supposed to be doing though, we're supposed to love everyone and spend all day picking flowers and rescuing small trapped animals, that sort of thing. INFPs right? The Healers. I dismiss people as beneath my notice on a daily basis and rarely admit to it because I am such a 'nice' INFP.

On the other hand, your personal experience of a few INFPs that you didn't really know too well, but decided were silly people based on some actions you didn't really understand doesn't qualify as any kind of damning report against the type in general. It's very easy to perceive flaws in others, but even when we're right we always have more than enough flaws of our own to occupy our free time. This is think is some bashing that is actually a little necessary.

[tremolo tone]

ahh, so you don't really know what you're talking about, that's all i needed to know ;)

Well then, what types do you suggest they might have been?

And, healthy or unhealthy variants?

[SenhorFrio]

I don't hang around people who don't appreciate me.i'm an irrational philosopher and i like it that way.

[badzee28]

I think it is kind of a practice what you preach thing. I see many infps that say we should practice tolerance, than get this victim mentality against anyone that happens to be part of some sort of majority. We can be just as bad as ESTJs. The only difference is they don't like anyone that doesn't conform to the majority. We hate everyone in the majority. Kind of hypocritical really.

[Rogue Eagle]

oh how I love it when another type comes to our forum and starts telling us what's wrong with us based on a few encounters of theirs which they to be representative of the whole type.

Actually no, there are a few INFP's that do the same thing too with all their "you guys need to harden the fuck up" type speeches. Oh, and the mass projecting.

The forum here is a concentrated dose of INFP behaviours, sometimes it manifests itself in strange ways, and ideas build on top of each other.

Be who you want to be, just because you think one way it doesn't mean everyone else should.

If this post is hypocritical and/or illogical, I don't care, I'm an NF, fuck you ;)

[refugee]

''You're delusional and you rely on feelings too much''

No we just have a different way of seeing things. Just because we are able to think up certain answers that are unusual when it comes to solving certain typical issues, it does not mean we are unrealistic. Don't be jealous that I've come up with some answers and progress in life based on unique creativity and deep instinct based perceptions.

It does not mean I abandon logic and rationality altogether. It is not my problem you are too close minded to see where I am coming from. That's why you lack empathy, something that most of us have in abundance.

''What you do is useless. You dreaming brings no results''

Inspiring others, seeing the positive in others more than what's expected and caring for others are useless?

I don't know maybe you secretly aspire for a world full of solely thinking robots who have become expert at shutting out their feelings and never knowing when or how it is healthy to keep in touch with both emotions plus imagination at some level. Perhaps then, if what we're good at are so useless, don't give a damn if people take a longer time when it comes to understanding some of your deepest and most unexplainable emotions, don't give a damn about the factor of inspiration that helps produce beauty in this universe. Since you're implying that attempting to be more understanding, compassionate than the usual and having inspired imagination that can create an exciting variety - are useless next to your pretentious rational elitism.

Don't hate us just because we speak an emotional language you don't understand. Just because you cannot understand something within the capacity of what you disguise as so called rational thinking, don't act as if your narrow mindedness and arrogant prejudices make our thinking processes any less valid.

Many of us can think logically, thank you very much. It's just we also have a deeper capacity to feel things that you're too afraid or too proud to understand.

You being a kid and being scared of things you're not used to do not make us at fault.

I don't want to be you.

Take that, INFP bashers.

(This is only a response to people who are TOO QUICK to unfairly stereotype most INFP's Although I do acknowledge we INFP's have our weaknesses)

Awesome post Izzie! I pride myself on my ability to think outside the box. I am slowly learning not to apologize for my eccentricities, but rather embracing it and using it to inspire others.

[Raichan]

There was a lot of hate in the OP. A lot of need to completely degrade and invalidate the opinions of anyone who could strongly criticise INFPs

I already clarified this in a previous post:

To clarify, I don't mind constructive criticism or people who criticize us in general.

But when they become excessive in it and extremely arrogant as though only their thought systems alone can funtion well in society, wow.

Not my problem that some people can't read ;)

[Raichan]

No, Im not judging all INFPs, basically Im just saying that a large number of INFPs are unhealthy and choose to remain so, but still demand their unhealthiness to be pampered. A healthy INFP is one who has made peace with the establishment and doesnt give up every time something does not go according to their perfect aesthetic vision. And at the same time, even some healthy INFPs try to convince some people these are healthy individuals, who would bring only goodness in positions of power.

So you've ran into bad experiences with a number of INFP's but feel the need to label a larger number of INFP's on that basis. Without taking the time to be a bit more open minded.

I'm not saying there aren't any bad INFP's. I'm sure in your life that INFP was probably extremely annoying, but turning that into an excuse for you to label an ENTIRE type with poorly constructed generalizations makes you, my friend, the one who looks foolish.

[badzee28]

I think there are too many more important things to worry about than people making broad generalizations about any particular type of person. People are welcome to say whatever they like, what difference does it make anyway? It isn't like their approval has has any basis on my day to day life. In fact I'd rather they do that; then I know the extent of their maturity level and I know ahead of time not to get involved with them.