[calysco]

i created this thread on the ENTP subforum and am now curious to see how the INFPs would respond to this topic (copied and pasted out of sheer laziness):



hm, after writing for a bit, i deleted the entry and started over seeing that i probably should ask for definitions first so,

1. what do you consider as a betrayal?
2. when betrayed, do you wish for vengeance?
3. do you actually carry it out?

personally, it takes a lot for me to trust someone and accept them as a friend, but once they're in my circle of trust, they're in. however, unfortunately, my trust in those who i care about is rather simple and naive which led me to some past problems with shitty friends after finding out that they were just using me and nothing more (good lesson though).

i immediately wanted to make their lives a living hell (at that time, i thought that death was not enough of a punishment for them) and thought up of intricate plans of carrying this desire out. however, ultimately, it took everything i had to force myself not to do anything.

and so, i was kinda wondering how you guys reacted as well

oh yeah, you too, INFJs.

[karmagenerator]

Hello, and please excuse my rather undeveloped forum writing style,i'm new here.

1)What i consider as betrayal varies from time to time, but generally it has to do with people whom you first accept as friends and then they turn out not to be what i expected. YES, its mostly my fault, because i tend to overrate people a lot, but...
2)Right after feeling betrayed, i mostly go into a terrible stage of furry, destroying and torturing the traitor in the most horrid (not physical, mostly psychological) way... BUT
3)... the rage goes away right after i see/hear them, blaming everything on myself.

[Blackbeard]

1. I don't know, I only stick close to a few (very few) and the only time I could remember was mostly on me so meh.
2. Yea I have thought of just completely breaking her heart for shits n lulz.
3. No to petty and where friends sorta....i guess.

[fiasco]

1. what do you consider as a betrayal?

Anyone who pretends to be your friend while gossiping behind your back, spreading your secrets, or suddenly turns on you when you need them the most.

2. when betrayed, do you wish for vengeance?

I do. I wish something bad would happen to them. I'm harder on myself though... I'd think it's my fault for being stupid enough to trust people like that. Blaming yourself is ridiculous, but I can't help but do it. I guess it's just a low self-esteem issue?

3. do you actually carry it out?

I don't think so. Not hardcore vengeance, and definitely not by doing the same thing to them. I wouldn't want to be around them anymore for sure, but I'm pretty pathetic in that I'd be so afraid of having them or someone else hate me more that I wouldn't be openly mean to them. It'd probably just stay pent up or vented in private.

I had to be taught very painfully, two times, that I shouldn't go running my mouth to just anyone, and to discriminate more when it came to friends and anyone who I would consider trusting.

[Miraji]

1. what do you consider as a betrayal?
its when someone i give my trust miss-use it, or lie to me..i know its my fault since i trust people easily and always see the good side of people :S
7 years ago i had my first bf and i loved him sooooo much, he was my everything, and trusted him blindly but he betrayed me with another girl, i saw him with her in my eyes..i didnt say any word just moved on in my life trying to pick up the pieces of my shattered heart

2. when betrayed, do you wish for vengeance?
ooooooooooooh i will be wishing that i can change their life to hell, and destroy everything
but usually i say nothing at all i just move on

3. do you actually carry it out?
yeah i do i am stubborn and determine in my life in general, but not in bad way..going back to the example i gave, what i did was concentrating on my study then career, i am now someone i am proud to be who achieved soo much in her life in the 25 years :)

but i wonder if as infp we forgive and forget !

[calysco]

but i wonder if as infp we forgive and forget !

i honestly wish i could forgive, but each time when i think i've gotten it, something triggers my memory and everything comes rushing back again. bleh. i cant forget either. i dunno if it's just me, but my memory is linked to feelings and impressions rather than physical objects and so my memory of the past can kind of be warped, with too much emphasis on certain things.

the only exception when i've forgiven (but cant forget! i dunno why!!!) someone is when they honestly look like they feel bad for treating me that way. instant forgiveness then!

[Miraji]

i honestly wish i could forgive, but each time when i think i've gotten it, something triggers my memory and everything comes rushing back again. bleh. i cant forget either. i dunno if it's just me, but my memory is linked to feelings and impressions rather than physical objects and so my memory of the past can kind of be warped, with too much emphasis on certain things.

the only exception when i've forgiven (but cant forget! i dunno why!!!) someone is when they honestly look like they feel bad for treating me that way. instant forgiveness then!

thanks for your reply, i asked because i can never forgive no matter how much i try..maybe as you said i will forgive when i feel they are really sorry for what they did, but never forget...and when i think about the things that happened to me in the past, i feel as if it happened now no years, months or even week ago

[Calvaire]

One: When someone turns their back on you,when someone stomps their big foot all over your heart.

Two:I did before I haven't as I got older,when I was younger I was a horrible person.


Three:Again when I was younger I was a bad person just plain horrible. There might have been times when I was jealous of someone and they "accidently" got hit with a fusball or when I got my best friend at the time to drive past someones house and yell very loudly "cunt" "bitch" and "dog-face".

So I was a big bitch before who hasn't done some bad things when they were young and stupid...don't judge me lol

[Conscience]

Betrayal: Noun/verb
Betrayal is the breaking or violation of a presumptive social contract, trust, or confidence that produces moral and psychological conflict within a relationship amongst individuals, between organizations or between individuals and organizations
YES, OH A MILLION TIMES YES.
I just hate it when I'm betrayed, but if it's partly my fault, I end up a guilty, soggy mop, begging for forgiveness. I think I need to ham up on this Conscience thing. My Conscience is always so innocent and needy. If its all their fault, a few things will happen:
-Our clique will ignore you and treat you like an ingrate
-If your insistence on fitting in continue, there will be a lot of whispering and glancing
-Lots of nasty rumors
-People bad mouthing you
-Everyone treating you like you're not there, a disgusting, gigantic bug, or tell you in front of eveyone else that you're smelly, and smell like hormones
-Social Status Downgrade.
And trust me, it'll happen if you pierce my heart and slash it open, I'll backstab his/her ugly little head and downgrade everything (Ewww, what is she wearing? Ewww, there's all this stuff in her braces... Ugh, she can't say "f". She alwways says "th". She's a little bit dumb. She doesn't know what a ligament is. She's such a wanna be...)
But, see, I think there's a reason why this part of me never comes out. if it did often, I'd terrorize the world. :P
Oh wells.

[Tommy]

I have a quite easily quenchable thirst... Get my grip together, forgive and move on.