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INFP Forum - The Idealists Thread, Assertive, Dynamic, Fiery INFPs in NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers; I feel I'm a very stereotypical INFP. Very introverted, not that assertive accept for the things that I believe strongly ...
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:02 PM   #11
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I feel I'm a very stereotypical INFP. Very introverted, not that assertive accept for the things that I believe strongly in. I hate confrontation, even watching debates on TV makes me feel awkward sometimes! I'm arty, I love to help people and I'm super super daydreamy... So no, I don't identify with being assertive, dynamic or fiery. Those sound like very 'E' extrovert qualities to me.
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I can be very good at confrontation in my own way. In writing, I can dominate any argument. I can also be as stubborn as anybody when it comes to things I care about.

On the other hand, I tend to fail at face to face confrontation simply because I don't engage in shouting matches. Basing the outcome of a disagreement on who is better at intimidating or drowning out the other is just incredibly stupid to me, and if I can't escape the source of the disagreement and it's not a violation of my core values, I will just forfeit. I also tend to ignore small conflicts over things I don't really care about and it baffles lots of people. I rarely get angry in traffic. Petty insults from strangers roll right off me. I forfeit in petty one-time conflicts with strangers most of the time as well. When people throw their weight around over stupid crap, I let them. Why waste energy unless it's likely to be a trend? People I know always tell me that those are the times when it's most important to stick up for yourself, and that just doesn't make any sense to me.
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:44 PM   #13
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without trying to sound too 'dramatic' if there are injustices occurring I like to take a stand (workplace, family, friends, public etc).

I'd pick my moments rather than being full on' assertive, dynamic or fiery' all the time. I'm often not that confrontational though if I feel wronged for myself or someone else then I won't let it stand. (example of this being father; he shouts people down, and it just angers me that he would often get his way or make his point in an argument the ONLY POINT worth considering through intimidation.

- That... that gets me fired up (as an example)
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:27 PM   #14
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I'm definitely not the mother theresa stereotype, but I wouldn't call myself assertive or dynamic. I can be assertive, but it takes a great deal of energy & determination, as I prefer the path of least resistance.
I would definitely say that I am fiery....my mom called me a "pistol" when I was a kid. I've got an ornery and feisty streak.

I am definitely independent, passionate, and very competent at whatever I set my mind to (I just have to get there mentally first - that's the big obstacle. I've seen that mentioned in INFP profiles too). I don't like authority either, and I can be very critical of flaws (idealism has an ugly side).

I'm not sure how much of that comes across initially with people because I am quiet & reserved at first, and they just see "timid"; I am timid, but that's a social anxiety, not my personality. I think when people get to know me well they may be surprised at how strong my personality actually is and by how much backbone I have; and yet, I am still very "go with the flow", very dreamy, and hate confrontation. So depending on who you ask, I might be called "calm" or "temperamental".

I wouldn't say that I like to push people out of their comfort zones either, but I am also not a people-pleaser. I think the INFP healing style is not to be confused with SFJ style of nurturing. It's more in the emotional/psychological realms and doesn't involve action so much as a listening ear and a few leading questions to help people come to their own conclusion for a solution.

I think the OP description might suggest you are ENFP though........? If you feel strongly you're an introvert, then maybe INFJ. INFJs tend to be more leaders and instigators than INFPs. Pushing people is more of an INFJ thing.
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Do you exist? Am I the only one? I don't get the constant barrage of wishy-washy, giving, and dreamy predominate stereotyping. Those are definitely aspects of my personality, but I am not some missionary healing the world at large and blowing everyone away with my grace and kindness.

I'm fiercely independent, risk-taking and ambitious. I'm definitely understanding, but I don't feel compelled to act on it that often. I like pushing people out of their comfort zones and being a tough critic with those I love most. I feel uncomfortable being submissive for the most part and am intolerant of weakness. I just don't feel like these profiles accurately portray my competitive and adamant persona very well. Anyone concur?

Fiercely independent? You better believe it.
Ambitious? Oh yeah.
Risk-taking? Not as much, I'm more cautious.
Competitive? Yes, definitely. I used to be such a sore loser but I'm better about it now.
Submissive? Sometimes. I don't see myself as dominant or submissive.
Intolerant of weakness? No. I think people should always be trying to improve on their weaknesses but I am tolerant of them. What I don't like is when people who don't try to improve.

I see myself as sensitive and romantic but also strong, both physically and mentally. I can handle what the world throws at me. I'm not afraid to take it on and I'm glad to know there are other INFPs who feel this way.
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Old 03-11-2010, 03:10 AM   #16
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infps are cute when they get huffy and puffy :D

*pats head*.. i know i know, yes im sure you are a dickhead!
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A little bit when I'm in a good mood, but this is definitely in terms of INFP because usually the fieriness is about something I really care about. However I don't criticise people much at all, only when I'm really angry, usually the only weakness I recognise is my own.
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Fiercely independent? You don't even know!!
Ambitious? On things I am passionate about
Risk-taking? Never, unless it's in line with my passions or values and needs to be done
Competitive? I used to be very competitive. I've been taught it's not positive my whole life so I gave up on it a while ago.
Submissive? I try to never be. I try to set the example for other people to be assertive as well.
Intolerant of weakness? Not completely.. if someone is extra weak in the sense that they are angry or put their negativity on others yes. But not in other situations


Conscience, your type does not determine your behavior or goals, even though they can show you what your patterns may have been in the past. Not every INFP is a sensitive cry-baby just like not every ENTP is going to chew you up and spit you out. Those stereotypes aren't true for everyone, and can sometimes denote someone who hasn't done enough self-improvement But for seriouses, example: you cry over someone who said something mean about you. How typical INFP. Now, a mature INFP would understand their emotions and go about it in a positive, assertive manner (telling the person how they felt, asking them to not be such a total dick etc. etc.) An immature INFP (stereotypical) would not do anything (submissive) and add it to the list of things to be depressed over.

I feel like I can be wrong...correct me or give a better example if I'm right! Oh, SELF DOUBT, how INFP of me.
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Do you exist? Am I the only one? I don't get the constant barrage of wishy-washy, giving, and dreamy predominate stereotyping. Those are definitely aspects of my personality, but I am not some missionary healing the world at large and blowing everyone away with my grace and kindness.

I'm fiercely independent, risk-taking and ambitious. I'm definitely understanding, but I don't feel compelled to act on it that often. I like pushing people out of their comfort zones and being a tough critic with those I love most. I feel uncomfortable being submissive for the most part and am intolerant of weakness. I just don't feel like these profiles accurately portray my competitive and adamant persona very well. Anyone concur?
I understand where you're coming from. I'm pretty sure INFP is the right type for me, but I'm quite assertive, and some would even say aggressive at times. I think these traits have become more pronounced as a result of having to push back at people who want to take advantage and just getting so sick of them that I've perhaps become overly assertive/aggressive. But, I don't remember being too submissive even as a child.

I can be wishy-washy I guess, because I'm pretty fickle and get bored easily.

I wouldn't say I'm that overly giving and I really don't want to heal the world. And, I'm a doctor and don' t like being one, so if healing the world was high on my list of priorities you'd think I'd like my profession more.

Now, I do feel a compulsion to heal the natural world.
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Do you exist? Am I the only one? I don't get the constant barrage of wishy-washy, giving, and dreamy predominate stereotyping. Those are definitely aspects of my personality, but I am not some missionary healing the world at large and blowing everyone away with my grace and kindness.

I'm fiercely independent, risk-taking and ambitious. I'm definitely understanding, but I don't feel compelled to act on it that often. I like pushing people out of their comfort zones and being a tough critic with those I love most. I feel uncomfortable being submissive for the most part and am intolerant of weakness. I just don't feel like these profiles accurately portray my competitive and adamant persona very well. Anyone concur?
In my family, at work and home, I am known for my kindness, grace, happiness and for The Positive instead of The Negative.

I am fiercely independent.

I am not a risk-taker. I am not ambitious unless it is something that interests me.

I do not in any way like pushing people, being a tough critic. I abhor the terms "brutally honest". If someone comes to me for advice I give it. I do not take people by the hand and guide them to the way of life I see fit for them. I do not believe there is one truth for the Universe. I believe each person defines what their truth is. What I believe is true is not what my neighbor believes is the truth.

I am submissive and peacful and calm if I'm living the Life I choose. I abhor confrontation but sometimes... lol.. some *things* just. must. be. said.

I feel that the INFP profiles just about (95%), fit me to a T. I feel the socionics INFP profile sucks. I apologize I was not fully honest there - -> it is beyond suck. I am not very competitive in my life except maybe the Arcade here. Well, no... husband and I can get pretty competitive when we are playing Jeopardy or Trivia games.
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