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This is a discussion on Countries with the most INFP / Similar types? within the INFP Forum - The Idealists forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; I've been wondering if perhaps the reason many within the INFP or similar types tend to be unhappy, has to ...

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    INFP - The Idealists

    Countries with the most INFP / Similar types?

    I've been wondering if perhaps the reason many within the INFP or similar types tend to be unhappy, has to do with the way certain societies place so much value on being extroverted, warm, and "normal." For example, I'm often told that I look angry or unhappy because I don't smile often...but it doesn't make sense to me to smile when I have nothing to smile about. Am I supposed to walk around with a fake smile plastered across my face all the time, like a creepy lunatic? I think it's particularly challenging for women, since our level attractiveness can often depend on our ability to be perceived as "sweet" and "friendly." I've been told on more than one occasion that I come off as a "bitch," even when I think I'm behaving completely normal. I'm sure INFP men are often told they seem cold or indifferent, since they're less likely to be the dude in the middle of a room commanding every second of attention.

    Thoughts?
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  2. #2
    INFP

    Well, I just love my country, the United States. I saw some stats recently from I think the Mbti.org site, that there are MORE introverts in the US than extroverts. I love that.

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    INFP - The Idealists


    I would not take such comments to heart. Cos it just means that someone else is aware of your feelings on the outside, and that you are not truly feeling happy on the inside. I used to use this opportunity to talk, and get my own feelings validated.

    "I am worried about the next step in my career. Been thinking a lot about careers and things like this, this is getting me down."
    "I am worried about my mother, she has been diagnosed diabetes."

    Normally, people will give you sympathies and then an idea of how to get to the next solution...
    Show appreciation and gratefulness when someone has lent you a hand.

    After a while, you will learn that in order to feel overall happy, you got to be and create happiness for others first, and then they too would be happy with you and vice versa etc...


    If you have nothing to smile about, then turn this into a conversation... like..."what do you smile about normally? have you done something that you are happy about lately?".... This turns into a real life conversation, like, connecting with somebody.

    No man is an island and all that.


    Even when I found out that my family members spoke about illnesses like cancer, we shared information on where best to get treatments and people are pretty nice about things generally, so.... But in those circumstances, these people were very close friends of mine whom I have known years... So we share such info. You got to earn the personal trust first.

    The other day, I had an absolutely wonderful conversation with another a young INFP girl who is 25. We waffled waffled waffled so much about travelling... It got me so excited. :) She really found me a joy to talk with. I found her so funny, and really connect cos she reminded me of myself when I was young on travelling. So we swapped tips on how to travel and where to go and what to eat, that kind of thing. She offered a stay with her family in East Europe so that I can taste real warm milked, fresh milk ! I said that freaks me out. :/ I dunno, the idea of fresh warm milk makes me laugh. I cannot imagine myself doing this.

    See ? Simplicity in connecting with people... :)


    [Added] Ok, I am from the UK. The North. From my experience, even when I was grumpy and in emo mode, I still get asked to go out to the pub for a drink. My colleagues won't forsake me, but after a while if you do not join in, then this is the social invitation snipped ! ...

    In Europe, my ESFJ sister thought my Belgian INTJ brother in law was dashing, gentlemanly and smart.... Basically, classy, or "snobbish". (It took me a long time to figure out that he was scared. lol.) ... I think this previous INFP guy thought I was "classy"... until he saw me socially danced with other guys and then he thought I was "common"... and then I found him reggatronned with other Spanish girls, then I thought he was cheap. Then this INFP Mexican guy thought this Persian INFP guy was also gay, cos he did not chase any single girl, but kept chasing all of them but not going for any of them etc...

    I would so not worry too much what other people think... do what makes you feel good. :)
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashley.Alien View Post
    I've been wondering if perhaps the reason many within the INFP or similar types tend to be unhappy, has to do with the way certain societies place so much value on being extroverted, warm, and "normal." For example, I'm often told that I look angry or unhappy because I don't smile often...but it doesn't make sense to me to smile when I have nothing to smile about. Am I supposed to walk around with a fake smile plastered across my face all the time, like a creepy lunatic? I think it's particularly challenging for women, since our level attractiveness can often depend on our ability to be perceived as "sweet" and "friendly." I've been told on more than one occasion that I come off as a "bitch," even when I think I'm behaving completely normal. I'm sure INFP men are often told they seem cold or indifferent, since they're less likely to be the dude in the middle of a room commanding every second of attention.

    Thoughts?
    Introversion is the main culprit in having a face with few expressions. N,F and P have very little to do with that. I'm an INTJ and people seem to think the same thing about me.

    All societies appreciate Extroversion more in social interactions. This has nothing to do with society it self and everything with the "social interaction" which basically is all human interaction, even between introverts.

    " the reason many within the INFP or similar types tend to be unhappy" isn't like you suggested that "certain societies place so much value on being extroverted, warm, and "normal."" but simply because of Fi being their main function. This is typical Fi behavior.

    Actually, it is not Fi that causes unhappiness. It just makes you question your own opinions and conclusions a lot. Something that's clear today, can easily become unclear tomorrow because of some small new information you came across. (and in case of INFP's that new information can easily com from within because of Ne in the second position.) If that makes you unhappy or not is not the result of a function but a result of your life's experiences and your preference to always make things look worse or always make things look better.

    Having a positive or negative attitude isn't the result of cognitive functions. However, learning how to deal with Fi as your main function may not be one of the easiest tasks. Especially because of Ne as your second function that just makes you come up with loads of possibilities which your Fi then has to make sense of. But I'm sure there are many happy INFP's as well. That is, happy in general because nobody is just happy or just unhappy.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    I'd suggest Norway or Finland (Finns are apparently the most introverted people in Europe). Nobody will bother you there and strangeness is the norm.

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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by Sily View Post
    Well, I just love my country, the United States. I saw some stats recently from I think the Mbti.org site, that there are MORE introverts in the US than extroverts. I love that.
    I don't have any stats to back me up on this, so this is simply theory. I believe the biggest reason why the US is perceived to have more extroverts than introverts has to do with the regions and the population densities within the country. For example: The Northeast, Great Lakes and SoCal Megalopolis areas would probably have a higher extroversion ratio over introverts. But in other areas of the country such as the Great Plains,the Rocky Mountain Region and Upper New England would probably be the opposite. But I believe the fact that the image and perception of the US culture is based so heavily on it's Megaregions is what leads most to the conclusion that there are more extroverts than introverts.
    So with that said, when someone says something like Ashley did on the subject of Introversion vs. Extroversion, I know what she really means and just take it with a grain of salt. However I do believe that introverts in the big cities face more societal pressure and are not as happy when compared to the introverts in the more rural areas...
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    INFP - The Idealists

    I can totally relate to this!

    I used to live in an area of the USA where my introversion wasn't questioned. There was a good balance of introverts and extroverts there, so no one questioned me or judged me. I was free to be me. I was still kind and friendly to people, but I was still, you know, introverted!

    Now, however, I'm living in an area where extroverts heavily out-weigh introverts and I'm considered to be rather... strange by them. It stinks when I get comments like, "Why are you so quiet? Is something wrong? Are you sad?" or "You need to get out of la-la land and talk more." (Though I know not all extroverts are like this... a lot of them here are. )
    I tell them I'm just thinking and they're just like, "Oh... Alright then. "

    For a while (because it got so bad), I tried imitating extroverts just so I wouldn't be harassed or thought less of for being quiet. In the end, though, it only wore me out and made me feel bad about myself. I had to learn that I shouldn't try to change who I am even if people think I'm strange. It's who I am and who I'm meant to be. If I start to hate who I am, I'm hurting no one but myself. And being introverted is NOT a weakness - it's a strength, just like extroversion. Each of us is unique and we each bring different strengths to the world! It's pretty cool when you think about it.

    As for the not-fitting-in-because-of-introvert/extrovert-population-clash part, I guess it all depends on the area you're in and the people you meet. Although many people treat me like this here, I've made some really great friends (both introverts AND extroverts).

    But @Ashley.Alien, don't feel bad if those people act insensitively and say those things about you. Ignore them and just be who you are! The people who realize your originality and fun personality are the people whose opinions matter on the subject. The opinions of those who criticize you because of their own lack of understanding don't.

    Stay strong, chica! You're not alone!
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    INFP

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperNova85 View Post
    I don't have any stats to back me up on this, so this is simply theory. I believe the biggest reason why the US is perceived to have more extroverts than introverts has to do with the regions and the population densities within the country. For example: The Northeast, Great Lakes and SoCal Megalopolis areas would probably have a higher extroversion ratio over introverts. But in other areas of the country such as the Great Plains,the Rocky Mountain Region and Upper New England would probably be the opposite. But I believe the fact that the image and perception of the US culture is based so heavily on it's Megaregions is what leads most to the conclusion that there are more extroverts than introverts.
    So with that said, when someone says something like Ashley did on the subject of Introversion vs. Extroversion, I know what she really means and just take it with a grain of salt. However I do believe that introverts in the big cities face more societal pressure and are not as happy when compared to the introverts in the more rural areas...
    Very interesting post. I can't speak for the introverts in the big cities, but who knows.. you might be right. I can not live in a city. I. just. cannot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sily View Post
    ...I saw some stats recently from I think the Mbti.org site, that there are MORE introverts in the US than extroverts. I love that.
    Here's a link to the stats I was referring to: My MBTI Personality Type - My MBTI Results - How Frequent Is My Type? The table below shows estimates of the relative frequency of each of the sixteen types in the United States population.

    The estimated frequency table was compiled from a variety of MBTI® results from 1972 through 2002, including data banks at the Center for Applications of Psychological Type; CPP, Inc; and Stanford Research Institute (SRI).


    If one were to believe the stats there's more Introverts than Extroverts in the US, more Sensors (by far), more Feelers and more Js.
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    Unknown

    Quote Originally Posted by Babieca View Post
    I'd suggest Norway or Finland (Finns are apparently the most introverted people in Europe). Nobody will bother you there and strangeness is the norm.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Here in Canada, introverts do quite well, nobody really judges anyone (as far as I can tell) and everyone mingles pretty well. But then again Canadians are just nice in general


     

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