[Dark Romantic]

@Wanderlust94, @Kalifatidess: Slightly off-topic question here, but do INFPs always feel the need to consult their consciences when making a decision? I'm pretty sure it's an Fi thing, but does it apply to every situation?

[Wanderlust94]

@Wanderlust94, @Kalifatidess: Slightly off-topic question here, but do INFPs always feel the need to consult their consciences when making a decision? I'm pretty sure it's an Fi thing, but does it apply to every situation?

I can't speak for others but I know I do. Even if I don't always heed it, I have internal dialogues with myself over the choice or situation. I see many others in posts who do as well. So I want to assume many if not most do.

[Dark Romantic]

I can't speak for others but I know I do. Even if I don't always heed it, I have internal dialogues with myself over the choice or situation. I see many others in posts who do as well. So I want to assume many if not most do.

I see. I wasn't sure if you were talking about an INFP criminal in your last post or just criminals in general. I'd have to disagree if it was the latter, since even psychopathic criminals do have their own unique personality structure determined by life experience and genetics. It's just that the personality structure doesn't give them access to feelings of empathy, which of course makes it impossible for them to feel remorse. Even non-psychopaths can have limited empathy, and a great number of (usually young) people have lived their lives up to a certain point without feeling remorse.

However, if you were talking about INFPs, then I'd have to say that in the case of, say, a serial killer who decided to hunt down and murder abortionists, they'd be able to suspend their empathy if they were consumed by enough punitive anger and/or hatred.

[Wanderlust94]

I see. I wasn't sure if you were talking about an INFP criminal in your last post or just criminals in general. I'd have to disagree if it was the latter, since even psychopathic criminals do have their own unique personality structure determined by life experience and genetics. It's just that the personality structure doesn't give them access to feelings of empathy, which of course makes it impossible for them to feel remorse. Even non-psychopaths can have limited empathy, and a great number of (usually young) people have lived their lives up to a certain point without feeling remorse.

However, if you were talking about INFPs, then I'd have to say that in the case of, say, a serial killer who decided to hunt down and murder abortionists, they'd be able to suspend their empathy if they were consumed by enough punitive anger and/or hatred.

I was mainly referring to other criminals. This theory is based on what I feel and have seen more so than actual research because although I find the topic fascinating, I haven't deeply studied it. (INFP trait me thinks)

That being said, I know that the hardened criminals are distinct yet they also have this sameness about them when they are interviewed. Devoid of emotion usually. No remorse. Smiling and seemingly friendly yet they give a vibe of being out of it in a sense. Like they're not all there but they hide it really well. A very creepy feeling and look. Now of course you can't go off generalizations because I'm not "always there" and some days I too am just emotionally devoid at times. Although I do have the empathy and guilt. What I mean is that they seem CONSTANTLY in this state just devoid of any type. Cold and calculating. I'm aware though none of these are indicators of being a criminal. The interviews I've seen they come off as like that.

On the other hand you have hardcore gangbangers who are very passionate and downright emotional in their illegal activities. So I may be coming off as a little black and white although I try my best not to. Sometimes I just call a spade a spade.

[Dark Romantic]

I was mainly referring to other criminals. This theory is based on what I feel and have seen more so than actual research because although I find the topic fascinating, I haven't deeply studied it.

That being said, I know that the hardened criminals are distinct yet they also have this sameness about them when they are interviewed. Devoid of emotion usually. No remorse. Smiling and seemingly friendly yet they give a vibe of being out of it in a sense. Like they're not all there but they hide it really well. Now of course you can't go off generalizations because I'm not "always there" and some days I too am just emotionally devoid at times. Although I do have the empathy and guilt. What I mean is that they seem CONSTANTLY in this state just devoid of any type. Cold and calculating. I'm aware though none of these are indicators of being a criminal. The interviews I've seen they come off as like that.

Yeah, it's been a while since I've gone anywhere into criminal psychology (well, I still like to research personality disorders out of general interest, but it doesn't usually go further than that), but are you sure it isn't due to your prior knowledge of their crimes? Maybe it's an internal projection, though I have certainly seen some serial killers who were able to relate their crimes and thoughts in an unemotional manner. Richard Kuklinski is one who comes to mind (well, he was a mafia hitman, but paid killers are also classified as serial killers).

On the other hand you have hardcore gangbangers who are very passionate and downright emotional in their illegal activities. So I may be coming off as a little black and white although I try my best not too. Sometimes I just call a spade a spade.

Yeah, I don't think psychopaths make good gang members; too uncontrolled, too untrustworthy, and more codes and rules than they'd likely want to follow for an extended period of time. Gang members are usually just people adapting to life as well as they can, pursuing the path they believe will bring them the most success. Criminal psychopaths tend to be conmen, not killers, though they'd be willing to kill if they saw a good reason for it and/or thought they could get away with it.

[Wanderlust94]

@Dark Romantic- It may be personal projection. I have just seen some videos of serial killers that were chilling to the bone. Their eyes were just so unsettling. That is personal feelings though and obviously not empirical evidence.

Like I said though, I don't want to come off with generalizations if possible. All these words we use to describe cold blooded criminals can easily be applied to CEOs and and business leaders. That's not a political statement either. They have shown the very traits we associate with serial killers. I can't remember the name of the article but I saw it in Psychology Today.

[Jotum]

The only "criminal action" I would do(except from smoking pot) would be protesting and destroying corporate buildings, a corporation is something i can destroy and kick the shit out of since its not a human being, but even though corporations being non human many of them suck the lives out of innocent human beings, greed is a nasty thing and I dont mind destroying something that promotes greed and slavery.. AAH ANARCHY!! =P

[Kalifatidess]

@Dark Romantic- It may be personal projection. I have just seen some videos of serial killers that were chilling to the bone. Their eyes were just so unsettling. That is personal feelings though and obviously not empirical evidence.

Like I said though, I don't want to come off with generalizations if possible. All these words we use to describe cold blooded criminals can easily be applied to CEOs and and business leaders. That's not a political statement either. They have shown the very traits we associate with serial killers. I can't remember the name of the article but I saw it in Psychology Today.

It's not that black/white in this case, what u are reffering to is psychopaths... Their minds are just plain distorted without emotion... Someone who kills someone isnt all dead inside... people dont get sick out of hurting people, they just get depressed and never forgive themselves for their actions... some of them, I think INFJ's seem to have a ability to hide their emotions and blame everything on circumstances, or talk it away from them being something bad, they are extremely sensitive to critics in that matter... I dont know, studies have shown most become "softer" when they are up in their 40's they feel very lost and beat themselves up for things they have done in their past... And most have kids aswell, they also blame themselves for giving their children a vry strange childhood

[Kalifatidess]

The only "criminal action" I would do(except from smoking pot) would be protesting and destroying corporate buildings, a corporation is something i can destroy and kick the shit out of since its not a human being, but even though corporations being non human many of them suck the lives out of innocent human beings, greed is a nasty thing and I dont mind destroying something that promotes greed and slavery.. AAH ANARCHY!! =P

WORD! I think the root of all evil is money... and banks is the companies who control the money, who take loans etcetc... banks rule the world... But as einstein commented "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

[Touk]

Criminal psychology is interesting, have done a lot of reading about it.

I also has been reading a lot about INFPs, and an INFP often seem to have a high level of empathy

I think my question is, how would an INFP behave and feel being criminal(from small robbery to murders)?

Theories?

Well for one I think if they could do such a thing they would have such a horrible experience which caused there state of mind to think what they are doing is the right thing to do. From talking to allot of INFPs and from experience from my self it seems INFPs take action what they feel is the right thing. :P so thats my input.