[x3Fantasy3x]

I don't particularly like hanging out or interacting with any group of all males, it just doesn't suit me.

They need me to be sexist, racist, immature, aggressive, stereotypical and well I just am not. When I am near them I am extremely cold, I rather not talk to anyone of them unless it's an odd one out. I am really sarcastic and just completely pissed off when around them, and I try very hard to distract myself from their noises.

I just don't agree with most of their jokes (quite a few are personally offensive too even though I try very hard not to take it personally), I don't accept how you have to think like them just to be with them, I don't appreciate how they act all macho yet can't even take a punch and I highly think their immaturity is rather annoying.

For functions, I guess my Fe starts grasping everything I disagree with and my Ni+Ti snaps at them when they use it near me.

I am fine with a group of all males who are 'the odd ones out' cause at least than you won't need to be sexist, racist, immature, aggressive or stereotypical and you can be whoever you are without having to fit some stereotype.

There is a psychological term called 'Fake Man'. It's a term used on men that have insecurities with themselves, so the only way for them to hide it would be by covering it with a fake façade as such of the example the TS has given (actually @Greyaliens's Mook Men fit this well too). They need to show how masculine and macho they are in order to hide their insecurities however over time too many males made this into a trend thus if one doesn't fit the trend than one obviously isn't men enough in their terms. It honestly doesn't help that so many males encourage this sort of behaviour regardless if they are a Fake Man or not.

Most of the guys would say "Dude your so gay", haha they have no clue how true that is xD. However their homophobic rants is a way to cover up their own securities so I guess I pity them more but I don't appreciate how they say they would love to beat up a gay guy one day or how they would punch the next guy who looks at him with lust.

Lastly I guess I pity them overall, they just seem like such a bunch of sad guys though. They have degraded themselves to being discrimination and stereotyping guys who have to use this as the only way to feel happy about themselves, it's just so sad. But regardless never like them never will, they don't come near me and I won't snap at them, and everybody is happy xD.

[psynite]

I just dont give a flying fuck in those situations. I am who I am, if they are talking about something uninteresting to me I zone out. I am totally immune to insults, my come backs are funnier, and I neutralize everything else. Saying all that, I just have fun, I don't really judge the intellectual quality of the antics, I just enjoy it. I look for the deeper meaning, and with that I am happy with partaking in shenanigans.

I think the point of the stupidness is bonding, male bonding to me seems more of a posturing exercise. When you hang out with a big group of guys, if you have disdain for what they are doing, then they are going to feel like you are looking down on them and nobody likes to feel inferior. If I don't agree with something I just don't do it, otherwise I don't judge. I've been asked if I was gay, if you answer the question like it affects you, you lose the challenge, so I usually say something like "I'm not into guys, but maybe you'll have better luck with *points to his friend*".

[ebbandflow]

I find it helps to be gay. That way, they rationalize that as clearly being the reason for your strange behavior. However, I guess this doesn't work for everyone. C'est la vie.

[Hastings]

I'm pretty uncomfortable in groups period, however male-exclusive groups are a higher level of awkwardness.

[RememberWhenItRained]

Depends on the males....

sorry, but care to be more specific? @Killbain


i'm fairly quiet as is, so usually i just listen. Use less Fe, but i don't use that function much anyway,

I have a low tolerance for perceived immaturity (i'm the biggest hypocrite) so usually if that comes up I'll distance myself.

As far as aggression - I have a feeling i'm more aggressive than most my friends, so i don't know.

I find almost any interaction draining, but i do enjoy being around other men.

i feel like there's more i should say, but i don't know what you're getting at so, this'll do for now.

[Killbain]

Depends on the males....

sorry, but care to be more specific? @Killbain

i feel like there's more i should say, but i don't know what you're getting at so, this'll do for now.

Cheers RWIR,

The thing is it's difficult to be specific. I have known really great guys, great friends with whom I have terrific rapport turn into complete (to us a U.S term) "a**holes" when an all male group reaches a critical mass.

Now I don't expect to be discussing 'inner feelings' and 'the literature of Sartre' on a guys night out, but the levels of petty competetiveness and boorishness I have difficulty understanding.

In part I do wonder if there are certain types - either MBTI or physical types who 'lead' such behaviour and make it the group norm - and anyone who doesn't follow the 'norm' is singled out.....all in the name of fun of course....until it becomes serious!

Just one example, I have a talent with wordplay and one-liners....one evening a guy was busting on me about sports "Oh another game you can't play!" "Do they do Gay football leagues?"....all good fun....I said to him "Do you mind if I have you x-rayed?" He replied "Why?"...I said "I'd like to know what people see in you!".....the group laughed....he came at me with a bottle! It wasn't even one of my better lines!

I think it may not be the specific males in the group, but the specific situation they are in - usually sports or drinking related.....but I have seen similar things in the workplace too, where alpha maledom has derailed whole projects that descended into petty penis competions.

[tzenbot150]

I had my moments where I'd 'enjoy' all male groups. If I were ever in one I'd say I'd basically act ESTP (I feel pressured to act a certain way, like I'm performing in front of a live audience so to speak). Fool around, do crazy things, say really stupid, yet humorous comments. It's fun and all, but it's also extremely tiring... so really I prefer one-on-one conversations with anyone in general.

If its ever one-on-one with anyone I can really 'connect' with them and I find it very rewarding and much more entertaining.

[Waiting]

I become more outwardly cold and become more competitive. I tend to shove the shove my Fe in the back of my mind and use my other functions. Of course stimuli like injury or bullying pulls my Fe forward but I come off as cold cool collected and competitive. I don't care much for the men you speak of I avoid them they are stupid and I have no interest in interacting with them, if I do interact with them I come off as a snob... rightfully so.

The vast majority of the time, This exactly. I also make my disinterest very clear, and belittle, ignore, or question behavior that is bragged about. Ex. when someone will be bragging of some female conquest I'll laugh agreeably then say with a smile something like, "wow man you psychologically destroyed her'' (look away shaking head with a soft chuckle, then look back) "damn that's extremely messed up I'd never do that to someone." That's just a rough example, but essentially I play along with my outward emotions while directly stating how I really feel about it. Its really funny sometimes when they're laughing all proud with you one second then realize that it's actually complete condescension for their shameful act. Of course I do this for altruistic reasons.

[Ice Ghost]

I don't interact in groups of men often, but when I do, I just let them be their obnoxious selves, never lowering myself to that level of interaction. I've been teased and derided over it in the past, but I'm secure enough with myself to know that it's their problem, not mine.

[Doom]

Well most of the group situations I've been in since I left school have been with other like minded some what nerdy guys like me. How ever been put in a typical situation with other males and I'm usually the quiet one but I've found that the more outgoing times love my drunken personality. I don't know how much I change from the outside when I'm under the influence but my mind is more relaxed so I must become more witty which they like.