[Jawz]

OK .. I stole this from the ESTP forum. Here are some interesting facts about INFJ's.

INFJ Personality Type

• Most important feature of an ideal job: "Use of my special abilities."
• In national sample, highest in reporting stress associated with "Work, "Intimate relationship," "School," and "Other."
• In national sample, highest in coping with stress by "Talking to a professional."
• In national sample, ranked highest in being dissatisfied with "Marriage/intimate relationship"
• In national sample "Leisure Activities," overrepresented in "Writing" and "Appreciating art"; underrepresented in "Watching sporting events."
• Academic subjects preferred: art, English, music.
• Among highest college persisters.
• 3 top work characteristics favored in national sample: "Variety of tasks," "Clear structure," and "Independence & achievement"
• Lowest of all types in liking work environments with "Opportunities for advancement & high pay but not job security."
• In national sample, dissatisfied with "Promotions" and "Salary" in their jobs.
• With ISTPs, ranked first among all the types in using spiritual/philosophical coping resources.
• Among the 3 male types most "oblivious" to partner's dissatisfaction with the relationship.

What do you guys think. Do you relate?

[Runescribe]

Oblivious to partner's dissatisfaction in youth because I didn't know better. Oblivious now because I don't care.

Yes this describes a garden variety INFJ of 35 or younger

[Zech]

OK .. I stole this from the ESTP forum. Here are some interesting facts about INFJ's.

1. Most important feature of an ideal job: "Use of my special abilities."
2. In national sample, highest in reporting stress associated with "Work, "Intimate relationship," "School," and "Other."
3. In national sample, highest in coping with stress by "Talking to a professional."
4. In national sample, ranked highest in being dissatisfied with "Marriage/intimate relationship"
5. In national sample "Leisure Activities," overrepresented in "Writing" and "Appreciating art"; underrepresented in "Watching sporting events."
6. Academic subjects preferred: art, English, music.
7. Among highest college persisters.
8. 3 top work characteristics favored in national sample: "Variety of tasks," "Clear structure," and "Independence & achievement"
9. Lowest of all types in liking work environments with "Opportunities for advancement & high pay but not job security."
10. In national sample, dissatisfied with "Promotions" and "Salary" in their jobs.
11. With ISTPs, ranked first among all the types in using spiritual/philosophical coping resources.
12. Among the 3 male types most "oblivious" to partner's dissatisfaction with the relationship.

What do you guys think. Do you relate?

Thanks Jawz

(Added some numbering in there)

I relate strongly to 3, 5 and 11. And moderately to 2, 8 and 9

I can well believe 7 - but wasn't so for me.

I find 12 very surprising.

Isn't there something of a contradiction between 9 and 10? I'm reading that as "not wanting/expecting promotion / good salary" (9) then "being dissatisfied by lack of promotion / poor salary" (10). Not exactly a contradiction, but getting what you thought you wanted but then not being happy about it.

[Jawz]

Thanks Jawz

(Added some numbering in there)

I relate strongly to 3, 5 and 11. And moderately to 2, 8 and 9

I can well believe 7 - but wasn't so for me.

I find 12 very surprising.

Isn't there something of a contradiction between 9 and 10? I'm reading that as "not wanting/expecting promotion / good salary" (9) then "being dissatisfied by lack of promotion / poor salary" (10). Not exactly a contradiction, but getting what you thought you wanted but then not being happy about it.

9. Lowest of all types in liking work environments with "Opportunities for advancement & high pay but not job security."

I think you're misunderstanding 9 and 10 ... by being lowest in liking work environment indicates lowered expectations more than anything else. And also, I don't see the correlation between ambition and salary. Many people are ambitious in career growth, but willing to take pay cuts to climb the ladder. At the same time, many people aren't ambitious, but require higher pay. Job growth is not always the same as financial growth.

I think it makes sense. It resonates with my mom's view of of her career --- she never really cared for a job that would allow her to rise fast [she doesn't even know that half the engineers in the country think that she's the best contract engineer there is], but she was never happy with her pay.

[Synthetik]

I guess I relate to number 12. I never knew anything was wrong. She always did a good job of hiding her feelings from me.

[OrangeAppled]

• Among the 3 male types most "oblivious" to partner's dissatisfaction with the relationship.

I have actually seen this in both INFJ men & women.... From my observations, it's a resistance to self-analysis & refusal to accept criticism from others, as well as a resistance to validate others' feelings so they continue to do what they want & not have to admit it is selfish.

Many INFJs I've known don't seem to want to admit their flaws to themselves; they push the blame on the other people involved if something is not working. I've even seen some refuse to accept what someone else communicates about their own feelings, as if only the INFJ's own evaluation of a situation is correct (I think this is due to Ni feeling objective/universal & Fe using external justifications). If the person says, "I feel X when you do Y", then the INFJ refuses to admit they do Y, skirting around it until they can make themselves the victim somehow. It's an invalidation of the other person's feelings in order to resist admitting they are ever wrong. It appears more like denial to me than sheer obliviousness though.

I've seen this up close with my INFJ aunt (a woman, obviously) & her IxxP husband. I'm not entirely sure how my uncle deals with it.

[Jawz]

I have actually seen this in both INFJ men & women.... From my observations, it's a resistance to self-analysis & refusal to accept criticism from others, as well as a resistance to validate others' feelings so they continue to do what they want & not have to admit it is selfish.

Many INFJs I've known don't seem to want to admit their flaws to themselves; they push the blame on the other people involved if something is not working. I've even seen some refuse to accept what someone else communicates about their own feelings, as if only the INFJ's own evaluation of a situation is correct (I think this is due to Ni feeling objective/universal & Fe using external justifications). If the person says, "I feel X when you do Y", then the INFJ refuses to admit they do Y, skirting around it until they can make themselves the victim somehow. It's an invalidation of the other person's feelings in order to resist admitting they are ever wrong. It appears more like denial to me than sheer obliviousness though.

I've seen this up close with my INFJ aunt (a woman, obviously) & her IxxP husband. I'm not entirely sure how my uncle deals with it.

I will affirm to the extent that my mom tends to do this a lot as well. She's very self-aware about her own needs ... but as for dad's needs, she only fulfils her obligations to him. I don't think I've ever truly seen 'love' in her eyes for dad .. she claims that she used to love him but lost that feeling after they had to abort their fourth child.

However, even then - they've been together for 28 years since the abortion --- it's more than enough time for her to be more than just a dutiful drone for dad. But that's kinda how life goes sometimes. They're both there, but never there. ESTJ + INFJ who don't love each other -- is hellish for an ENFJ son.

But again, I guess it's different for different individuals and could depend on how developed their Fe is. Fe is an INFJ's aux function - hence under stress they're even less likely to use it.

[atsleepwalkingpace]

12 surprise me too. I thought INFJs were supposed to be all about their partner's feelings and putting other people's needs ahead of their own :S

[olorin77]

I have a bone to pick with 5...I love sports, especially football and to a lesser extent baseball soccer and basketball. Anybody else love football?

[katrina092196]

Real for me :) =

- Ideal Job? "Use of my special abilities." - True :)

- Reporting stress associated with blah blah - TRUE! :)

- Coping with stress by "Talking to a professional" -
True!! (Though i rely more on my most trusted and important person)

- Leisure Activities= "Writing" and "Appreciating art"; No~ No~ to sport events =
True!! :D (Just add Reading books and Music)

- Academic subjects preferred: art, English, music.-
Yeah!!! (Also, science XD)

- Characteristics favored: "Variety of tasks," "Clear structure," and "Independence & achievement" =
Hell yeah! :)

So-so XD =

- With ISTPs, ranked first among all the types in using spiritual/philosophical coping resources. =
Good sources alright XD

- Ranked highest in being dissatisfied with "Marriage/intimate relationship"=
Err~ hate to admit it but yeah! XD

Dunno~ I'm still in Highschool :D =

-Among highest college persisters.
-Lowest of all types in liking work environments with
"Opportunities for advancement & high pay but not job security."
-In national sample, dissatisfied with "Promotions" and "Salary" in their jobs.

Lastly!! This is indeed surprising! :D

Among the 3 male types most "oblivious" to partner's dissatisfaction with the relationship.

For me no.12 is... yeahh.. it's true..
because i put my partner's feelings first,
I think that when i make an action.. i might be wrong and I might hurt his feelings and so on. XD
That results Me!.. "Taking no action" or "Not gonna tell what i feel" .lol.
I find it pretty hard in making decisions..
Since i'm so concerned about what will he feel. XD

But i think when a INFJ is really serious in a relationship...
"dissatisfaction" is nowhere to be found! :) haha. :D