[Owfin]

I'll try to describe how Si works in my everyday life.



It's like... there's a bullet point list for everything. When I thought about composing this post, my mind "scrolled down" on my list of ways to describe Si to get to my current best way to describe it. I like to call them "units of thought". I narrow things down to these units. You may notice that I often speak in a rather sequential way; this is me going through my unit of thought.

[PlushWitch]

I'll try to describe how Si works in my everyday life.

It's like... there's a bullet point list for everything. When I thought about composing this post, my mind "scrolled down" on my list of ways to describe Si to get to my current best way to describe it. I like to call them "units of thought". I narrow things down to these units. You may notice that I often speak in a rather sequential way; this is me going through my unit of thought.

I think my mother-in-law is an ISTJ. Somehow I think the Si presents itself rather different in ISTJs vs. ISFJs. In ISTJs it seems more like a flexible yet steady Si. The Si in ISFJs seems a lot more stubborn...

Have no explanation for this. Just the vibes I get. xD But I could imagine it having to do with Si - Te vs. Si - / - Ti in some way.

[RememberWhenItRained]

I think my mother-in-law is an ISTJ. Somehow I think the Si presents itself rather different in ISTJs vs. ISFJs. In ISTJs it seems more like a flexible yet steady Si. The Si in ISFJs seems a lot more stubborn...

Have no explanation for this. Just the vibes I get. xD But I could imagine it having to do with Si - Te vs. Si - / - Ti in some way.

interesting. as opposed to Si, how would you describe Ni?

[PlushWitch]

Hm... I just thought that probably also the Fi vs Fe make a difference in the flexibility of ISTJ and ISFJ.

interesting. as opposed to Si, how would you describe Ni?

It's probably not what you mean. But when I contrast INTJs and INFJs it's really kinda the same thing. I think INFJs can be a lot more stubborn and inflexible in their believes than INTJs. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

To go in on what I think was question (and not repeating the abstract stuff I've already said somewhere in this thread. ;D):

My husband is a programmer. And somehow I believe that the cognitive functions of an ISFJ (besides the functions of an INTP) are the best suited for such a job. I think key is Si plus Ti.

To build a program you have to make sure every single thing you write is correct in order to prevent bugs, crashes or loopholes for 3v1l h4xx0rz (xD sorry...) in the programme. Si cares so much about every step and Ti cares so much about the logic that the programme will be very stable and also well-arranged and clear to everyone (who's a coder... I'm not :P).

My husband often moans about other people spoiling everything and making instable and buggy programmes. In some cases it becomes clear to me that they must be Ni-users. xD And I have to agree that Ni is probably not very well suited for the whole business. An Ni programmer who just lets their Ni run will most likely come up with some perfect solution for a problem...or some perfect idea for a feature... or whatever... and then start doing something taking shortcuts and hacking their way around every corner. The programme will be highly confusing and unclear to people who look at it afterwards and most likely the Ni user has also introduced quite some bugs. xD

I'm sorry if there's any Ni user who's a programmer and feels discriminated against.. I have no personal experience with this. It's just what I got from what my husband told me and from what I made of it taking Ni and Si into account.

It's kinda the same like building a house...if you're doing it the Ni way you might start and stop with the roof... an Si user would start with the cellar building the house all the way to the top. ;P Voilà - a perfect house! xD

[RememberWhenItRained]

Hm... I just thought that probably also the Fi vs Fe make a difference in the flexibility of ISTJ and ISFJ.



It's probably not what you mean. But when I contrast INTJs and INFJs it's really kinda the same thing. I think INFJs can be a lot more stubborn and inflexible in their believes than INTJs. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

To go in on what I think was question (and not repeating the abstract stuff I've already said somewhere in this thread. ;D):

My husband is a programmer. And somehow I believe that the cognitive functions of an ISFJ (besides the functions of an INTP) are the best suited for such a job. I think key is Si plus Ti.

To build a program you have to make sure every single thing you write is correct in order to prevent bugs, crashes or loopholes for 3v1l h4xx0rz (xD sorry...) in the programme. Si cares so much about every step and Ti cares so much about the logic that the programme will be very stable and also well-arranged and clear to everyone (who's a coder... I'm not :P).

My husband often moans about other people spoiling everything and making instable and buggy programmes. In some cases it becomes clear to me that they must be Ni-users. xD And I have to agree that Ni is probably not very well suited for the whole business. An Ni programmer who just lets their Ni run will most likely come up with some perfect solution for a problem...or some perfect idea for a feature... or whatever... and then start doing something taking shortcuts and hacking their way around every corner. The programme will be highly confusing and unclear to people who look at it afterwards and most likely the Ni user has also introduced quite some bugs. xD

I'm sorry if there's any Ni user who's a programmer and feels discriminated against.. I have no personal experience with this. It's just what I got from what my husband told me and from what I made of it taking Ni and Si into account.

It's kinda the same like building a house...if you're doing it the Ni way you might start and stop with the roof... an Si user would start with the cellar building the house all the way to the top. ;P Voilà - a perfect house! xD

nice analogy.

Roof ain't got anything to hold it up. How's that work again?

Cool. I'm an IT major, but did not want to do programming as a career/living (no disrespect for your husband. he's "a better man than I :D") I just don't have that kind of logic...And logical stamina.

Looking to get into either computer security or digital forensics. From what i've heard though, both those fields are rather difficult. :/

I have doubts to be Si dom..

[PlushWitch]

Roof ain't got anything to hold it up. How's that work again?

Yeah... x)... that's for believers. xD

Cool. I'm an IT major, but did not want to do programming as a career/living (no disrespect for your husband. he's "a better man than I :D") I just don't have that kind of logic...And logical stamina.

Ha! Yay, glad I chose the right example. xD

I have doubts to be Si dom..

So is it just INFJ vs. ISFJ (Ni vs. Si) for you? Or do you also consider something else?

[RememberWhenItRained]

Yeah... x)... that's for believers. xD



Ha! Yay, glad I chose the right example. xD



So is it just INFJ vs. ISFJ (Ni vs. Si) for you? Or do you also consider something else?

that's the main one. I think I'm definitely more F.

but i do feel less sensitive/other oriented and growing more sensor-ish. i don't know. maybe i'm imagining things. Or mayne i'm an INFJ in denial.
Or, God forbid, an INFJ poser

[geekofalltrades]

The first tests I took all came back INFJ, but I also often type as an INFP and, more rarely, an ISFP. I settled on INFJ after reading portraits of them as people: they just seem to describe me a lot better (even though INFP is a really, really good fit as well).

[PlushWitch]

The first tests I took all came back INFJ, but I also often type as an INFP and, more rarely, an ISFP. I settled on INFJ after reading portraits of them as people: they just seem to describe me a lot better (even though INFP is a really, really good fit as well).

I wouldn't go by descriptions. They're quite flawed and biassed. How about cognitive functions...? O:)

The only more decent descriptions are on here: INFJ
Maybe you should read ALL of them. xD And reading up on cognitive functions would basically be a better idea if you haven't done it yet. ;)

Sorry, you didn't ask. But you posted in here wbout yourself. ;D


@RememberWhenItRained
Maybe @laurie17 could help...? xD...afaik she's a 9w1 INFJ.

[laurie17]

@RememberWhenItRained
Maybe @laurie17 could help...? xD...afaik she's a 9w1 INFJ.

I'd be happy to help if I can :) I read back a little and maybe the distance you feel from 'sensitive stuff' lots of INFJs talk about is the 9 thing of disassociation? I think also that Ni-Fe-Ti tends to lead to INFJs living outside the real world a lot of the time, dulling senses and emotional responses.

As for me, I tend to feel less 'emotional' that I really am, and can surprise myself by getting really upset or angry over something without realising. It could also be wacky Fe or something (outside focus). I found the main thing that made me think I was an INFJ was how Ni and Fe worked together: subconsciously reading people's behaviours and coming to a conclusion about what would affect them positively or negatively.

Having over-developed Ti doesn't help this ambiguity. I drift off and away into a mess of pointless brain activity when I'm not mentally stimulated. It's why I've taken up multi-tasking with almost everything (yet always focusing on one or two projects at a time). I suspected I was an INTJ for a while, but knew from the whole preoccupation with people's feelings and comfort, I was actively using Fe.

I hope some of that drivel helped >> I'm not feeling very coherent today (had a weird night's sleep). Sorry!