[ohTOMICho]

No, I don't think so. "Chick" is not duragotory. "Pig" is.

I think chick= dude....hot chick= hunk.....pig=b****

Ah, but based on what @screamofconscious said, it could be perceived as duragotory based loosely on its definition. Chickens are valued for their flesh and eggs. Pigs are valued for their bacon. -drools-

[Daveman]

Ah, but based on what @screamofconscious said, it could be perceived as duragotory based loosely on its definition. Chickens are valued for their flesh and eggs. Pigs are valued for their bacon. -drools-

It could be, but I don't think it is intended to be. And I do think "pig" is.

[screamofconscious]

It could be, but I don't think it is intended to be. And I do think "pig" is.

Intention is exactly why I don't think that use of the word deserves harsh reprimand. But that doesn't mean people have a free pass to behave however they want so long as they didn't mean any harm. All it takes is a drop to poison a well.

[ohTOMICho]

It could be, but I don't think it is intended to be. And I do think "pig" is.

What if there's a positive adjective attached beforehand?

"Tom, you handsome pig you." Oh, I tried.

Back to topic,

"Bad boys" annoyed the Heck out of me in high school. And because I was so shy and quiet, it made me the perfect target for their mindless games of flirtation. As if, who ever could make me fall in love with them first would win or something.

Pssh. But they were such adorable pigs, though. -Winks at @Daveman-

[SyndiCat]

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[Antrist]

How did SyndiCat get banned??

[Istbkleta]

bengalcat, thank you for defending my type.

I have always considered myself to be one of the nicest people I know. Many people would disagree. Pls INFJs, be forgiving of our imperfect nature :) Everybody's saying u r our perfect match. And also, this "bad boy" is assumed to be entp. We are not sure he is!

Also, define drugs. Pot is not a drug, as many NTPs in general would agree. Please don't judge us because we like it so much :) It liberates the mind, the soul and the imagination.

Also, we might appear too direct, even rude. It doesn't mean we want to hurt people. It's just the way our functions influence the way we communicate. It's not arguing, it's just presenting other possible points of view. I am not attacking you, I am helping you improve your argument because I care!

So all in all, normal entps are not bad boys! We are good people at heart (normal ones)! We care (Fe). Just the communication style is a little bit ... off sometimes. Why you would even equate bad boys and entps is beyond me (ok, I kind of see why, but that's wrong).

So for me at least approaching a woman is either brutal directness incarnate or an excuse to let loose the flood of craziness NTPs seem to share (please note INTPs are much crazier on the inside but hide it better! We are not even that crazy! why people think such things of one of the nicest and most caring types I don't know.).

On a side note, how do I spot an INFJ woman/girl from the other types?
How do I approach and appear safe and nice (as I am really! just not good at showing it).

For you who have dated ENTPs, how did they start it, what did they do OK and what mistakes to avoid?

As mentioned, everybody says u r our perfect match ... and u r rly rare

[Antrist]

That is very true, ENTP are caring. It's also a very accurate statement to suggest it's the communication which gives the impression otherwise. Even with my type as INFJ, I've been mistaken for someone I'm not - someone who is hypercritical and uncaring. INFJ naturally wear an expression of neutrality which confuses a lot of people. It's not because we're not feeling anything, or we're bored of you, it's because 95% of the time is spent processing. I don't even think that's an exaggeration.

Some things my ENTP friend(s) would say to me, would upset me. Over time, I very much picked up on it's inadvertence. Mainly because I understand myself a lot better than I used to; I am more prone to explaining how I feel about certain things. After the explanation meets the offender, it's made clear that it wasn't intended so.

When ENTP are faced with many subjects (people), as an observation, this inadvertent offence is even more expressed. ENTP like to take on everyone in the room - quite contrary to INFJ, which are much more 'one or nothing'. The ENTP's attempt to engage everyone means he/she might fail to express the knowledge of their individual subjects. For example, an INFJ in the room may have a problem with conversations regarding blood and gore. The ENTP then might graphically explain a scene from a horror film, in his/her attempt to relive the experience for everyone in the room (as they thrive from people understanding their own points of view and planting their ideas). The ENTP hasn't considered the INFJ's point of view in this case, as the general situation is not the same as a one-on-one with this INFJ. The INFJ is resultantly offended and will probably be the issuer of a nice, long ear-bending directed at the well-known ENTP. At this point the ENTP is likely to apologise, followed by reasoning as to why getting offended is illogical and possibly could be conceived differently, marked up by the expression of the fact the ENTP shouldn't be expected to hide his visions when there are more people in consideration. This is probably likely to push or pull the INFJ into confrontation or distance. If the ENTP apologised without the follow-up, the subject would soon be dropped (possibly explained in hideous depth by the INFJ) and forgiven.

ENTP, from experience, can't do that. Their topics of conversation may seem outlandish, rebellious and de-shackled of 'taboo' - but this is merely the expression of a strong extroverted intuition. Most of the things an ENTP will say are conceptual, and will never enter into reality. Not to say all ENTP think this way, but a friend of mine insists that controlled culling of the elderly is entirely plausible and effective - but you really could not expect to hand him the lethal injection and take the plan to fruition.