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This is a discussion on Damned if you do - Assorted Potential Moral Conflict Q's #1.1 within the INFJ Forum - The Protectors forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; Each question is intended to be a bit of a moral conflict. There are only -two- options in any choice. ...

  1. #1
    INFJ - The Protectors

    Damned if you do - Assorted Potential Moral Conflict Q's #1.1

    Each question is intended to be a bit of a moral conflict. There are only -two- options in any choice. There are no loopholes, "yes in this situation, no in that" or any bs. If you wish, you can give a explanation on why you predominantly side with a certain choice, but it's not necessary. However, you will have to take a primary stance rather than dance around the topic.

    We are all reasonably smart people, remember that either decision can be argued from any angle, so keep debates to a minimum (or start a new thread) as it prevents future posts.

    Regardless of your responses, I appreciate and respect everyone that shares their thoughts.

    Questions Response template further below.



    1. You enter a burning building, sustaining some injuries in the process. You come across a 6 year old boy and girl, they are twins. Both of them are crying profusely and begging for you to help them. You will only be able to save one and the other will die. Which child will you save?






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    2. You and your partner have been madly in love for a number of years now (dating). Both of you are forever intertwined and have shared thoughts and feelings with one another that you have never shared with anyone else. Together, have openly touched on the idea of marriage and are excited about formally devoting your lives to one another. As the days draw nearer to fully taking the plunge, it turns out that your partner is your half brother/sister (you share the same father, but not mother). Options: Continue Relationship to Marriage OR End Romantic Relationship

    3. Up until this point you have lived a reasonably happy life. While things have not been perfect, every obstacle has only served to strengthen your desire for a better future. "One day..." you always tell yourself, one day you will find someone that loves and appreciates you for who you are; every day will be like living a dream. While that day will soon come, it will not happen for some others. With this, you are given a choice, would you be willing to give up your "soulmate" and by essence, part of your raison d'etre (reason to exist) to fulfill the lives of FOUR other people? You will be their inspiration through certain phases of their life. Do you live for yourself and your partner? Or do the weight of 4 others serve for the greatest overall happiness?

    4. As you stroll down the street humming your favorite Backstreet Boys song, an attractive male/female (preference) asks if you can spare some money for a bus ticket. At the same time, a sickly looking homeless person asks if you can spare some change -- you have no idea what they'll do with it. You only have enough change to give to one person. Who are you more incline to give money to?

    5. You are in a career where you have to swear confidentiality as people share a lot of personal stories with you. The stresses of the job are slowly aggravating you and you are somewhat bothered about not being open with your partner, whom you swore never to keep secrets from. Your spouse, with your wedding ring shining on their finger, inquires if there is anything they can do to help. You know deep down they are curious about your career, but they'd never pry as they are aware of your commitments. Do you believe it is alright to breach confidentiality and speak to your spouse about it?

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    6. Congratulations! You or your spouse is pregnant! While the thought of bringing a child into this world is certainly a scary thought, you have done your homework and have so much to look forward to. Challenges? They'll be there, but you and your partner will get through anything... right? In the early weeks of pregnancy the doctor informs you that your child will suffer from limited motor function. Additionally, its intellectual capacity will peak at roughly 7 years old. The doctor gives you the option of having an abortion. None of your friends or family know of the pregnancy and you can keep the abortion a secret if you wish. Are you more incline to have an abortion or keep the child?

    7. Based on a popular Japanese anime called "Death Note," you come into possession of a book that will allow you to end the lives of people simply by writing their names down in it. While you consider yourself a generally good and reasonable person, I'm sure you can think of specific names or types of people, whose lives have only caused harm to others. There are no consequences to yourself, outside of moral ones. Will you write down -anyones- name in the book (now or future)? Or will you destroy it as you were never meant to have that ability?

    8. You have always been a bit of a romantic and have been a constant journey to finding your true love. So many thoughts pour into your head whenever you imagine the possibilities, they are always able to put you at ease, they can read your mind like no other, they will love you to the ends of the Earth. Not only will they bring happiness, but also fulfillment. You come across an enchanting guy/girl, their words are like a melody as it resonates within your ear. Both of you have talked for hours and are mutually fascinated with one another. It's too early to say you are meant to be, but you believe there is a lot of promise. As you continue to talk, they confess to having an abundance of sexual partners before in the past. The number baffles you as it is almost double their age. As they finish speaking they smile at you inquisitively, but place their hand on your inner thigh. What their intent by this touch is up for debate. Will your conscience get the best of you and turn you off from this person? Or will you accept the past and see what happens?

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    [b]2. Your romantic partner ends up being your half brother/sister. Options: Continue Relationship to Marriage OR End Romantic Relationship[/b]
    
    [b]3. Do you live for yourself and your partner OR do you value the happiness of 4 others?[/b]
    
    [b]4. Spare change, give it to the attractive male/female OR the homeless person?[/b]
    
    [b]5. Sworn career confidentiality and internal stress vs spousal vows and their desire to help. Do you believe it is alright to breach confidentiality and speak to your spouse about it?[/b]
    
    [b]6. Early pregnancy and future disability of the child.  Are you more incline to have an abortion or keep the child?[/b]
    
    [b]7. Playing Grim Reaper with a book that allows you to end lives. Will you write down -anyones- name in the book (now or future)? Or will you destroy it as you were never meant to have that ability?[/b]
    
    [b]8. Potential soulmate, but troubling number of sexual partners. Idealism vs the heart. Will your conscience get the best of you and turn you off from this person? Or will you accept the past and see what happens?[/b]
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  3. #3
    INFJ - The Protectors

    First of all I can't thank you enough for the work you put into your the original post. The template method should be used more often. You have earned my respect instantly.

    1. 6 year old boy and girl in burning build, which child do you save?
    I will pick the one that is less likely to escape on their own. But I understand the point of the question. I guess I would have to say the female but I don't know why. I blame societal conditioning.

    2. Your romantic partner ends up being your half brother/sister. Options: Continue Relationship to Marriage OR End Romantic Relationship
    If the relationship was already well on the way to marriage then I would most likely continue it. That "half" part makes all the difference.

    3. Do you live for yourself and your partner OR do you value the happiness of 4 others?
    This questions is slightly confusing. Basically do I value the happiness of 2 people (myself and lover) over the happiness of 4 strangers? Yes. If the question was simply myself vs. four others I would pick the four others. But I am not going to ignore the happiness of my lover.

    4. Spare change, give it to the attractive male/female OR the homeless person?
    Homeless.

    5. Sworn career confidentiality and internal stress vs spousal vows and their desire to help. Do you believe it is alright to breach confidentiality and speak to your spouse about it?
    I tell my spouse everything UNLESS I think she will tell others. What I tell my spouse MUST remain between us or I won't say it.

    6. Early pregnancy and future disability of the child. Are you more inclined to have an abortion or keep the child?
    I would continue with the pregnancy and hope for the best.

    7. Playing Grim Reaper with a book that allows you to end lives. Will you write down -anyones- name in the book (now or future)? Or will you destroy it as you were never meant to have that ability?
    I would basically turn into Light from Death Note. I definitely wouldn't destroy it and I would try to resist abusing it, but "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

    8. Potential soulmate, but troubling number of sexual partners. Idealism vs the heart. Will your conscience get the best of you and turn you off from this person? Or will you accept the past and see what happens?
    I could care less how many partners they have had. But if they couldn't remain faithful I would abandon them (maybe).
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    Unknown Personality

    1. 6 year old boy and girl in burning build, which child do you save?
    At first, I said the girl. But after looking at the picture, the boy. The girl looks like the more demanding and clingy/needy child (and the type to take direct action/initiative to assert her needs and ensure that her needs are met), whereas the boy looks more passive, mellow, and easygoing, and therefore least likely to escape without my help.

    2. Your romantic partner ends up being your half brother/sister. Options: Continue Relationship to Marriage OR End Romantic Relationship
    I am unsure of what decision I would make, but I would temporarily end the romantic relationship, and "shut down" temporarily because of the potential emotional/psychological stress I anticipate. So I guess, if I had to choose one or the either: end.

    3. Do you live for yourself and your partner OR do you value the happiness of 4 others?
    I would live for myself and my partner. Once, a long time ago…. even last year, I would've chosen to fulfill the lives of other people, but I am at a stage in my life right now where I recognize my own needs, and furthermore, the needs of my partner who I assume would be my best friend, my husband, my soulmate, and as such, I would treasure him that much to forsake the happiness of 4 other people I do not know. However, if the four other people are our children, I think that complicates things.

    4. Spare change, give it to the attractive male/female OR the homeless person?
    Homeless person.

    5. Sworn career confidentiality and internal stress vs spousal vows and their desire to help. Do you believe it is alright to breach confidentiality and speak to your spouse about it?
    In principle: yes, because I would absolutely trust my partner and spouse about everything and anything. However, in order to protect my spouse, I would most likely not want to do so. Furthermore, I wouldn't want to dump work-related emotional and psychological baggage on my partner, and to increase his burden. If he ever does ask about anything specific from me, I would never hide a single thing from him.

    6. Early pregnancy and future disability of the child. Are you more incline to have an abortion or keep the child?
    Keep the child.

    7. Playing Grim Reaper with a book that allows you to end lives. Will you write down -anyones- name in the book (now or future)? Or will you destroy it as you were never meant to have that ability?
    I would most certainly fantasize about it, but I would neither write down anyone's name nor would I destroy it.

    8. Potential soulmate, but troubling number of sexual partners. Idealism vs the heart. Will your conscience get the best of you and turn you off from this person? Or will you accept the past and see what happens?
    I will accept the past and see what happens. I will most definitely give him the benefit of doubt, but I would never compromise my own principles. Like how I would treat anyone, unless he gives me specific reason to distrust him, I would not immediately rule him out.
    Does this make me fall into the category of idealism or the heart?
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  5. #5
    INTJ - The Scientists

    1. 6 year old boy and girl in burning build, which child do you save?

    Whichever one I feel I have a better chance of saving.

    2. Your romantic partner ends up being your half brother/sister. Options: Continue Relationship to Marriage OR End Romantic Relationship

    Continue, keep secret from anybody else, adopt children if we wanted to have children.

    3. Do you live for yourself and your partner OR do you value the happiness of 4 others?

    4 others.

    4. Spare change, give it to the attractive male/female OR the homeless person?

    neither?
    5. Sworn career confidentiality and internal stress vs spousal vows and their desire to help. Do you believe it is alright to breach confidentiality and speak to your spouse about it?

    Do not speak.

    6. Early pregnancy and future disability of the child. Are you more incline to have an abortion or keep the child?

    Abort.

    7. Playing Grim Reaper with a book that allows you to end lives. Will you write down -anyones- name in the book (now or future)? Or will you destroy it as you were never meant to have that ability?

    I would keep the book. It may come in handy. Though hopefully not.

    8. Potential soulmate, but troubling number of sexual partners. Idealism vs the heart. Will your conscience get the best of you and turn you off from this person? Or will you accept the past and see what happens?

    As long as she didn't cheat on anyone and always practiced safe sex I would have no problems with how many partners she had.
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  6. #6
    INFJ - The Protectors


    1. 6 year old boy and girl in burning build, which child do you save?
    The boy. No reason but I had to pick one. In the real circumstance I would probably grab the one closest to me, whether or not that was the boy or the girl. For this scenario I'm just going to assume it's the boy.

    2. Your romantic partner ends up being your half brother/sister. Options: Continue Relationship to Marriage OR End Romantic Relationship
    Continue it. Unlike most people I don't really see anything wrong with incest if it is consensual. Love is love no matter what.

    3. Do you live for yourself and your partner OR do you value the happiness of 4 others?
    This has already happened to me and as much as I would love to say I would like to fulfill four other people I can safely say that if I didn't have my partner in my life I would just end up dying so I would be useless anyway. Before I met her I was pretty much on the way to death anyway.

    4. Spare change, give it to the attractive male/female OR the homeless person?
    Probably the girl who wants a bus ticket. The bus is coming soon and I have been in the situation of being stranded before and it is not good. Whereas the homeless person's situation cannot be truly affected by my giving him money as the next day he will still be in the same position as he is now.

    5. Sworn career confidentiality and internal stress vs spousal vows and their desire to help. Do you believe it is alright to breach confidentiality and speak to your spouse about it?
    Yes. I would tell my spouse anything.

    6. Early pregnancy and future disability of the child. Are you more incline to have an abortion or keep the child?
    Keep the child. The purpose of life is to be fulfilled as much as you possibly can and be as happy as you possibly can. That purpose doesn't diminish just because your intellect suffers. I don't base my opinion of other people on how good their motor skills are or how smart they are. They are my child, end of story.

    7. Playing Grim Reaper with a book that allows you to end lives. Will you write down -anyones- name in the book (now or future)? Or will you destroy it as you were never meant to have that ability?
    I would destroy it because I do not think it is for me to decide who lives and who dies.

    8. Potential soulmate, but troubling number of sexual partners. Idealism vs the heart. Will your conscience get the best of you and turn you off from this person? Or will you accept the past and see what happens?
    Um I am not really sure how to take this question to be honest. If it were someone other than my s/o I would probably not do anything at all? I already have all of this. I was easily able to identify that my s/o would be my s/o almost within moments of meeting her. So if that situation were our first meeting I probably would have known it. And in regards to numerous sexual partners I could care less.
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  7. #7
    INFJ - The Protectors

    1. 6 year old boy and girl in burning build, which child do you save?
    This is by far the hardest choice for me. I'd pick one randomly to be as fair as I could towards them. Probably the one who was closest to me.

    2. Your romantic partner ends up being your half brother/sister. Options: Continue Relationship to Marriage OR End Romantic Relationship
    I'd continue the relationship. Problems are things you work out, not run from.

    3. Do you live for yourself and your partner OR do you value the happiness of 4 others?
    I'd live for myself and my partner and wouldn't expect anyone to do it differently in my position.

    4. Spare change, give it to the attractive male/female OR the homeless person?
    I had initially answered "homeless person" but then on a second thought the attracive - or otherwise, whatever - girl trying to catch the bus is more in need of spare change than the homeless person who can easily go ask anyone else on the street like they do all the time.

    5. Sworn career confidentiality and internal stress vs spousal vows and their desire to help. Do you believe it is alright to breach confidentiality and speak to your spouse about it?
    Confidentiality - professional hazard.

    6. Early pregnancy and future disability of the child. Are you more incline to have an abortion or keep the child?
    Abortion. Try again, not doom the poor child.

    7. Playing Grim Reaper with a book that allows you to end lives. Will you write down -anyones- name in the book (now or future)? Or will you destroy it as you were never meant to have that ability?
    Destroy it. The problem in the world aren't the people who do bad things but those of us who allow it.

    8. Potential soulmate, but troubling number of sexual partners. Idealism vs the heart. Will your conscience get the best of you and turn you off from this person? Or will you accept the past and see what happens?
    Accept the past and see what happens but be prepared for possibly not being able to deal with it.
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  8. #8
    INFJ - The Protectors

    1. 6 year old boy and girl in burning build, which child do you save?
    if i knew that it is IMPOSSIBLE to save both of them...the one that i think has the most chance of survival.

    2. Your romantic partner ends up being your half brother/sister. Options: Continue Relationship to Marriage OR End Romantic Relationship
    Continue, easily. love is love, and we're only half siblings.

    3. Do you live for yourself and your partner OR do you value the happiness of 4 others?
    Me and my partner.

    4. Spare change, give it to the attractive male/female OR the homeless person?
    Depends. If the homeless man looks like he's going to collapse on his feet, then i'll give him the money. If he looks like he's doing pretty well on his own then i'll give it to the attractive male, i don't know if he could get home without it.

    5. Sworn career confidentiality and internal stress vs spousal vows and their desire to help. Do you believe it is alright to breach confidentiality and speak to your spouse about it? I would write them down on pieces of paper and then burn them. hat way they have no chance of getting out.

    6. Early pregnancy and future disability of the child. Are you more incline to have an abortion or keep the child?
    I...honestly couldn't decide on this one. I think that i would choose abortion, so that the child would be reborn in another healthy body...but i would cry for weeks over it.

    7. Playing Grim Reaper with a book that allows you to end lives. Will you write down -anyones- name in the book (now or future)? Or will you destroy it as you were never meant to have that ability?
    I would bury the book in my back yard.

    8. Potential soulmate, but troubling number of sexual partners. Idealism vs the heart. Will your conscience get the best of you and turn you off from this person? Or will you accept the past and see what happens?
    Wait for a little bit longer. at least a month.
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  9. #9
    INFJ - The Protectors


    Some tough questions there, good quiz

    Burning house with 2 kids
    1: The girl because I believe the female of the species seems more resilient to trauma, also a slight bias to the female gender.
    Incestuous relations
    2: Break the marriage to prevent future congenital problems, with a bonus of family harmony. There is still the other love.
    Love or helping others
    3: Find my soulmate, to prove to others it is possible and its a worthy journey regardless.
    Homeless vs attraction
    4: Sickly homeless person, the attractive person would have to see this virtue to be considered attractive beyond the superficial. Although it would be tempting to give the money to that person to see if they give it the sickly homeless person.
    Confiding in the right person
    5: Only if confidentiality extends to the spouse and even then not in full details. I would expect my spouse to respect the vow of silence concerning other peoples business no matter what is shared. So probably no I wouldn't breach the confidentiality unless it was crucial to the relationship.
    To keep or sacrifice
    6: This one is really tough as I'm naturally anti abortion in most cases. In this case only if it is proven beyond doubt that the child cannot develop past 7 years old and has severe disabilities would I consider it. Having said that 7 year olds can be fun and adult life is pretty over-rated in many ways so I cannot discount this. This is very hard but I think if pushed I would keep.
    Book of judgment
    7: Destroy the book, I like to play.
    Promiscuity or bust
    8: Accept their past and see what happens
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  10. #10
    INFJ - The Protectors

    1. 6 year old boy and girl in burning build, which child do you save?
    I would save the cuter one because thats just the one I'd sympathize more by my nature, although statistically better looking people are usually smarter too. And if they were somehow equally cute I'd save the girl because as a guy I just find girls to be more adorable, not in a perverted way or anything. Not to mention, girls live an average of 10 years longer or something.

    2. Your romantic partner ends up being your half brother/sister. Options: Continue Relationship to Marriage OR End Romantic Relationship
    I never wanted children anyway, and I'd much rather adopt kids considering we don't have the resources to provide for every person on the planet as it is. So I'd continue with the relationship. Sure it's disgusting and all, but I mean if I found someone I was attracted to and really could connect with, why would it matter so long as we don't have kids? After all, anyone you date could actually be related to you, just that you don't know.

    3. Do you live for yourself and your partner OR do you value the happiness of 4 others?
    Maybe I didn't read the question carefully enough, but if I could pick those 4 others then I'd sacrifice my happiness for those 4. If it were just 4 random people then I'd stick with my own happiness. This might just be because there are a few people I know I'd do anything for, but I've never quite felt that way towards someone I was attracted to.

    4. Spare change, give it to the attractive male/female OR the homeless person?
    I know that it's right to give it to the homeless person, but knowing my terrible self I'm sure I'd give it to the attractive female. Guess that makes me a bad person.

    5. Sworn career confidentiality and internal stress vs spousal vows and their desire to help. Do you believe it is alright to breach confidentiality and speak to your spouse about it?
    I won't breach confidentiality. If it's too much for me I can quit. I would be choosing to stay in the job, and so I have no excuse to breach confidentiality even if it drives me insane.

    6. Early pregnancy and future disability of the child. Are you more incline to have an abortion or keep the child?
    Abortion. We kill animals all the time for food, and this child might not even live a happy life. Also again with the too many people on earth, might as well leave the resources for people that have the most potential to live fulfilling lives.

    7. Playing Grim Reaper with a book that allows you to end lives. Will you write down -anyones- name in the book (now or future)? Or will you destroy it as you were never meant to have that ability?
    I thought INFJ's had the God complex? I'd definitely use it to kill people if I thought their lives had a negative effect on society. Sure, it's wrong and evil, but that just means I'll have to be the necessary evil to make the world better.

    8. Potential soulmate, but troubling number of sexual partners. Idealism vs the heart. Will your conscience get the best of you and turn you off from this person? Or will you accept the past and see what happens?
    My conscience must be broken because it really doesn't care at all how many sexual partners someone has had. People like having sex. If anything it would impress me that they are so free from the chains of society. So long as the person doesn't seem like she's going to cheat on me, I'd be fine with it. Plus, with that many sexual partners she must have lots of experience and be really good. Just kidding though =]
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