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This is a discussion on Titanic within the Guess the type forums, part of the What's my personality type? category; Rose DeWitt Bukater: INFJ Jack Dawson: ISFP Ruth DeWitt Bukater: ISxJ Molly Brown: ESFP Cal Hockley: IxTJ What do you ...

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    INFP - The Idealists

    Titanic

    Rose DeWitt Bukater: INFJ
    Jack Dawson: ISFP
    Ruth DeWitt Bukater: ISxJ
    Molly Brown: ESFP
    Cal Hockley: IxTJ

    What do you think?
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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    Quote Originally Posted by paper lilies View Post
    Rose DeWitt Bukater: INFJ
    Jack Dawson: ISFP
    Ruth DeWitt Bukater: ISxJ
    Molly Brown: ESFP
    Cal Hockley: IxTJ

    What do you think?
    Rose: INFJ 3w4 Sp/Sx
    Rose's mom: ENFJ 3w4 Sp/So
    Jack: ESFP 7w6 So/Sx
    Cal Hockley: ??TJ 8w9 Sx/Sp

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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman of Mana View Post
    Rose: INFJ 3w4 Sp/Sx
    Rose's mom: ENFJ 3w4 Sp/So
    Jack: ESFP 7w6 So/Sx
    Cal Hockley: ??TJ 8w9 Sx/Sp
    I think you're definitely right about Rose. Except I would reverse her enneagram to 4w3.
    I don't think Rose's mother could have been a Giver- she was too irrational and selfish to be rational and giving (laughs). Ruth had a plan in place to restore their past life and she didn't care about Rose's feelings or what it would do to her daughter. She cared about herself and what would happen to her but more specifically her things. She was an elitist not an extrovert. If Ruth was indeed ENFJ- Rose and her mother would get along and see eye-to-eye. What we're shown is complete disagreement as Rose is rebelling against her mothers wishes. Ruth sees only one way. Only details and facts. Not possibilities or big ideas.
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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    Quote Originally Posted by paper lilies View Post
    I think you're definitely right about Rose. Except I would reverse her enneagram to 4w3.
    Rose is cold and aloof for the most part, but she warms up around Jack who exposes her softer, more sensual side. 4w3s are fiery, demonstrative, highly emotional and usually somewhat more neurotic. 3w4s are cool and calm

    I don't think Rose's mother could have been a Giver- she was too irrational and selfish to be rational and giving (laughs). Ruth had a plan in place to restore their past life and she didn't care about Rose's feelings or what it would do to her daughter. She cared about herself and what would happen to her but more specifically her things. She was an elitist not an extrovert. If Ruth was indeed ENFJ- Rose and her mother would get along and see eye-to-eye. What we're shown is complete disagreement as Rose is rebelling against her mothers wishes. Ruth sees only one way. Only details and facts. Not possibilities or big ideas.
    I've changed my mind to ESTJ
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman of Mana View Post
    Rose is cold and aloof for the most part, but she warms up around Jack who exposes her softer, more sensual side. 4w3s are fiery, demonstrative, highly emotional and usually somewhat more neurotic. 3w4s are cool and calm
    (Nod) When you put it like that, yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman of Mana View Post
    I've changed my mind to ESTJ
    That's more plausible.
    I still debate introverted as opposed to extroverted but all in all that factor doesn't matter quite as much.

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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman of Mana View Post
    4w3s are fiery, demonstrative, highly emotional and usually somewhat more neurotic.
    This is more true than I sometimes care for it to be.

    Yeah, I can see Rose's mom as a istj or estj. I've always seen Jack as esfp.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Both Rose and Jack are INFJ's (Dicaprio and Winslet are as well). This is why their characters are so tense and stiff, no adaptive P traits. Made for very intense love scenes, not really to my liking as much, but a good example of how two characters of the same type can seem relatively different (Though both characters were very much the same, only their backgrounds differed).

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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    Quote Originally Posted by Branden View Post
    Both Rose and Jack are INFJ's (Dicaprio and Winslet are as well). This is why their characters are so tense and stiff, no adaptive P traits. Made for very intense love scenes, not really to my liking as much, but a good example of how two characters of the same type can seem relatively different (Though both characters were very much the same, only their backgrounds differed).
    where did you see dominant Ni in Jack? he's impulsive, spontaneous and opportunist. much more like a P.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman of Mana View Post
    where did you see dominant Ni in Jack? he's impulsive, spontaneous and opportunist. much more like a P.
    You are being a bit stereotypical here with the character. To imply that J's cannot be impulsive or act spontaneously is not true. Remember also that MBTI refers to J's as those who have a directive external function in their top two, however in Introverts the dominant function is a perceiving one, This gives IJ's in particular an interesting stance because they are perciever lead, yet still very directive. Being perciever lead makes people more likely to watch how things are playing out at all times. Lead judgers, or EJ IP have a slightly different take. See because their dom is a judging function, they are more likely to judge first and percieve second. People fail to notice this trend but in many cases IJ's can be surprisingly spontaneous, based on their (Ni-Fe) agenda of course.

    Jack comes from a different background but the key here is his intensity to have his will done. See ISFP in general are more relaxed about Fe-Te matters, because it is their inferior. Notice how intent Jack is on making Rose his lover. Their is an agenda there. Plus if you would like you can look at him from a function perspective. He is an obvious Fe user (watch his aware expressions, he knows how he is being perceived), this negates Fi entirely. He certainly is values orientated (F) and he is definitely introverted as well. I covered his Ni-Fe early so that wraps him up. : )

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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    Quote Originally Posted by Branden View Post
    You are being a bit stereotypical here with the character. To imply that J's cannot be impulsive or act spontaneously is not true. Remember also that MBTI refers to J's as those who have a directive external function in their top two, however in Introverts the dominant function is a perceiving one, This gives IJ's in particular an interesting stance because they are perciever lead, yet still very directive. Being perciever lead makes people more likely to watch how things are playing out at all times. Lead judgers, or EJ IP have a slightly different take. See because their dom is a judging function, they are more likely to judge first and percieve second. People fail to notice this trend but in many cases IJ's can be surprisingly spontaneous, based on their (Ni-Fe) agenda of course.
    I simply asked a question, I'm not assuming anything

    Jack comes from a different background but the key here is his intensity to have his will done.
    it's called being in love, every type can experience this.

    See ISFP in general are more relaxed about Fe-Te matters, because it is their inferior. Notice how intent Jack is on making Rose his lover. Their is an agenda there. Plus if you would like you can look at him from a function perspective. He is an obvious Fe user (watch his aware expressions, he knows how he is being perceived), this negates Fi entirely. He certainly is values orientated (F) and he is definitely introverted as well. I covered his Ni-Fe early so that wraps him up. : )
    he doesn't seem introverted at all to me. also, being aware of how others perceive doesn't always mean one is an Fe user. Ne and Se can also gauge people's impressions of you, it's just that an Fe user is probably more likely to care.


 
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