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#1 ·
Robert Crawley - ESFJ 2w3 Sp/So
Cora Crawley - ISFJ 2w1 So/Sx
Violet Crawley - ESTJ 1w2 So/Sp
Mary Crawley - ESTP 3w4 Sx/Sp
Edith Crawley - ISxJ 2w1 Sp/So
Sybil Crawley - ENFP 9w8 Sx/So
Matthew Crawley - INFP 6w5 So/Sx
Isobel Crawley - ENFJ 2w3 So/Sx

Charles Carson - ISTJ 1w2 So/Sp
Elsie Hughes - ISFJ 1w2 So/Sp
John Bates - ISFJ 2w1 So/Sx
Sarah O'Brien - INTJ 6w7 Sp/So
Thomas Barrow - ENTP 7w8 Sp/Sx
William Mason - ISFP 6w7 So/Sx
Anna Smith - INFJ 2w1 Sx/So
Tom Branson - ENTP Counter-phobic 6w5 Sp/Sx
 
#7 ·
OH, I love, love, love Downton Abbey! Thanks for typing them all out, with the Enneagram and variants! :D It's odd, because I always thought Matthew would be either an INFJ or INTP...I don't see Fi in him. From what little I know of Fi, I don't think an Fi user would be so romantically confused as he was. And Mary seems rather ENTJ to me...or at least ESTJ. She doesn't seem like a perceiver at all. She wants to reach conclusions--she doesn't seem to really like the "journey" or the process, if that makes sense.

And Anna's an INFJ? Awesome! What made you think she is one, though, just out of curiosity?
 
#8 ·
I'm not the biggest MBTI typer, but my impression was the biggest reason why he was so confused about his relationship with Mary was because he had the impression her feelings for him weren't authentic or true and authenticity is everything to a Fi user. The way he always wants to stay himself despite all the changes happening in his life and how he doesn't want the Crawleys to mold him in someone he is not definetely screams Fi to me.

As for Mary, she is usually typed as ENTJ, but I think she is ESTP. The way she is really adaptable and really lives in the moment makes me think she is Se dominant. She is really good at thinking on her feet and to come up with a new plan to turn the situation at her advantage, without thinking about the possibile ramifications her actions could bring in the future. Like in season 2, when she made a deal with Sir Anthony Carlisle about protecting her secret about Mr Pamuuuuuuk and helping the insufferable Mr Bates, she did it because it seemed a good idea at the moment, but she did not really thought about how Sir Anthony could blackmail her with this piece of information in the future. And the way she usually fights back at Edith's schemes is really in the moment too. Furthermore, wouldn't an ENTJ be much more interested in intellectual pursuits? Because Mary openly mocks Edith for reading newspapers and being interested in what's happening around the world instead of riding. She also uses much more Ti than Te from what I have seen. She only does what seems logical and makes sense to her. And she has a well developed tertiary Fe which explains why she is so good at the social game and she is quite the charmer. She is really good at keeping the attention of her suitors on her and she is able to give what people expect of her when it suits her goal. Finally, the way she is often convinced that the way Robert approves of Matthew means that that he doesn't love her anymore or that she is not good enough for her father looks like inferior Ni giving a false and negative meaning to stuff happening around her.

As for Anna, it's more a wild guess than anything. She seems Ni dominant to me. From what I remember, she always tries to see the big picture, trying to see how a same situation can have a different meaning for different people. She is the only one who openly realized how hard it must be for Lady Edith to be stuck between two big personnalities like Mary's and Sybil's.
 
#9 ·
@JonathanG: Wow, spot on! I never thought of Mary, Matthew, and Anna that way, but it does make sense. Though...maybe some of Matthew's ideas of authenticity come from Ni...but then again, he seems very easily swayed, so that does seem more Fi. As for Mary...yes, that does make so much more sense. She seemed like an intuitive at first glance and a Te user, so I've though xNTJ was a safe bet, but her Te seems to only emerge when she's ticked off (and I can't imagine too many intuitives criticizing their sister for their fashion sense :p ). And her scandalous rendezvous with Pamuk does seem very SP. And INFJ Anna makes tons of sense. She's very, very loyal to her beliefs to the point of near-obstinacy. (For some reason, I forgot that Anna actually sympathized with Edith...was that in the first or second season?)
 
#10 ·
Wow, spot on! I never thought of Mary, Matthew, and Anna that way, but it does make sense. Though...maybe some of Matthew's ideas of authenticity come from Ni...but then again, he seems very easily swayed, so that does seem more Fi. As for Mary...yes, that does make so much more sense. She seemed like an intuitive at first glance and a Te user, so I've though xNTJ was a safe bet, but her Te seems to only emerge when she's ticked off (and I can't imagine too many intuitives criticizing their sister for their fashion sense :p ). And her scandalous rendezvous with Pamuk does seem very SP. And INFJ Anna makes tons of sense. She's very, very loyal to her beliefs to the point of near-obstinacy. (For some reason, I forgot that Anna actually sympathized with Edith...was that in the first or second season?)
It's in season 1. Gwen is pretending to be sick to go to her interview with Lady Sybil and Anna is doing Edith's bedroom with Mr Bates and she talks about how hard it must be for Lady Edith and how sorry she feels for her.

And I could maybe see Ni for Matthew, but I really don't see Fe in him. He doesn't seem to really care if some of his values and his lifestyle are not of Violet and Robert's tastes. A Fe user would usually not bring up subjects that make people he cares about uncomfortable, so that rules out INFJ. And I don't think INTJ is a good fit for Matthew.
 
#14 ·
@JonathanG: Oh, I *vaguely* remember that scene...huh. Guess that's time for a rewatch, and I'm completely fine with that, ha! ;D

I kind of see Ni in Matthew, too...I actually do see a little bit of Fe in him, but maybe that's just because he comes off as feeler-y. He kind of comes up with his own thing...so I think INFP is a safe bet. I'd originally thought that INTP would be a good guess for him, with Fe at the inferior position, which is why he kind of likes to do his own thing no matter what others say or approve of, and why he is so romantically confused. :p But I agree--he's most definitely not an INTJ. INTJs in popular culture tend to get pegged as the bad guys, and Matthew is most certainly not one of the bad guys. ;D
@WishyWashy: Oh, I completely agree that feminists then were perceives, especially xNFP types--that's known to be the advocating type that likes to pick up on whatever causes suit their fancy and rally for it. Kind of reminds me of my ENFP friend...she's a little feminist-y. I think it's safe to say that a great majority of feminists are perceivers. :)
 
#15 ·
@JonathanG: Oh, I *vaguely* remember that scene...huh. Guess that's time for a rewatch, and I'm completely fine with that, ha! ;D

I kind of see Ni in Matthew, too...I actually do see a little bit of Fe in him, but maybe that's just because he comes off as feeler-y. He kind of comes up with his own thing...so I think INFP is a safe bet. I'd originally thought that INTP would be a good guess for him, with Fe at the inferior position, which is why he kind of likes to do his own thing no matter what others say or approve of, and why he is so romantically confused. :p But I agree--he's most definitely not an INTJ. INTJs in popular culture tend to get pegged as the bad guys, and Matthew is most certainly not one of the bad guys. ;D
@WishyWashy: Oh, I completely agree that feminists then were perceives, especially xNFP types--that's known to be the advocating type that likes to pick up on whatever causes suit their fancy and rally for it. Kind of reminds me of my ENFP friend...she's a little feminist-y. I think it's safe to say that a great majority of feminists are perceivers. :)
I'll just have to watch the show again then, i guess Matthew came across as clean-cut like a J, but there is a poetic side to him which can lead to INFP of course. :tongue:
 
#16 ·
Ha! I had Matthew down as INFP for sure. He's so concerned with doing things according to what's right to him. I don't see Mary as reckless. To me she's a careful planner who occasionally lets herself get carried away. I was thinking xNTJ honestly. She's for sure got some biting TJ humor, NTJ humor I would even venture to say.
 
#19 ·
I think you are right about Thomas but William doesn't seem Fe dominant to me. I could see ISFJ though.

I was just trying to think of who seems to be missing from JonathanG's list, and I realized Daisy hasn't been typed yet! She's not my favorite, but she's adorable all the same. I read somewhere that someone thought she was something like ENFP...? But I'm not really seeing that. I can't picture an ENFP being duped and manipulated so much like she was by Thomas and O'Brien. Maybe an ESFP...? And any ideas what her Enneagram would be?
Ooh, I totally forgot about Daisy. I think she's an immature ISFP. When Mrs Patmore in season 2 was manipulating her into marrying William, she did argue with her but very weakly. And then, she spent all the rest of season 2 feeling horribly guilty about it because she went against her inner values. As gfor her enneagramm, the way she is so anxious over pleasing Mrs Patmore who represents the authority makes me think she is a phobic 6w7. Or possibly a 2? Altough, I don't know much about enneagramm, but aren't ISFP 2s kinda rare?
 
#18 ·
I was just trying to think of who seems to be missing from JonathanG's list, and I realized Daisy hasn't been typed yet! She's not my favorite, but she's adorable all the same. I read somewhere that someone thought she was something like ENFP...? But I'm not really seeing that. I can't picture an ENFP being duped and manipulated so much like she was by Thomas and O'Brien. Maybe an ESFP...? And any ideas what her Enneagram would be?

Also, I think O'Brien might be an ISTJ. Especially her near hundred-eighty-degree turn-around in season two because she feels haunted by the soap incident...that just seems more Si to me than anything.
 
#20 ·
Also, I think O'Brien might be an ISTJ. Especially her near hundred-eighty-degree turn-around in season two because she feels haunted by the soap incident...that just seems more Si to me than anything.
Oh and sorry for the double post, but I totally agree about ISTJ for O'Brien. I thought INTJ at first, but ISTJ fits so much more. The way she can't get over the guilt she is feeling because of the soap incident screams Si-Fi for sure. And she is always fighting any changes coming in the house. Definitely ISTJ.
 
#21 ·
@JonathanG: After I wrote my post, I later thought about Daisy's type, and I did think about ISFP, and I think you're right. She doesn't seem terribly extroverted. I do see Fi in her. But then she gets oddly stubborn about how she wants things to be--like not marrying William and wanting more recognition from Mrs Patmore--that seems tert-Ni. I think you're right. I'm not too familiar with Type Six, even though that's my head fix, but she definitely does seem to be anxious like a Type Six, and she's not a wing 5. I don't really see much of a Type Two in her, though...

And yay, I got O'Brien right! Yep, I think she's definitely in some kind of Si-Fi loop in season two.

Also (and this is for anyone to freely answer), what about these characters, even though we haven't seen much of them? I have a few guesses (just MBTI--I'm not good enough yet at doing Enneagram types :p ):

Gwen - INFx (I may be terribly biased here, though, because she's one of my favourite characters and I wish she came back to show off her secretarial skillz! ;D )
Aunt Rosamund - ESTJ (she freaks me out. I feel like she constantly has something up her sleeve, like some hidden agenda or something)
Mrs Patmore - ESxJ (she has this bossy Je-ness about her, but I can't tell whether it's with T or F! ;D )
Ethel - ESFP
Lavinia - IxFx
Sir Richard - ENTJ
 
#22 ·
I absolutely loved Gwen too and I loved her friendship with Sybil but I have a hard time typing her. Some kind of NF would make sense, I guess. And she needs to come back.

Aunt Rosamund sounded ESTP to me. Really opportunistic, likes to keep her options open, advised Mary to pretend to be in love with Matthew until she knew for sure that Cora's baby was a boy or a girl, etc.

I think Mrs Patmore is ESFJ. In season 2, she wants Daisy to marry William because that would make everyone happy. She thinks Daisy should sacrifice her values to please the group. It screams Fe to me.

I agree about ESFP for Ethel.

Lavinia is really hard to type since she was so undeveloped. She was more a plot device than anything else. I would say IxFJ 2w1 So/Sx.

And I agree about Sir Richard. ENTJ 3w4 Sp/So
 
#23 ·
I think Gwen's definitely an NF of some sort. Possibly an INFP? She wanted to go out and explore the opportunities available to women...that seems rather Ne to me.

Hm...that's interesting about Aunt Rosamund. I kind of saw (unhealthy) Te as being more opportunistic and controlling, like she was. She rather liked controlling people...she's definitely some kind of ESTx though. :)

Yeah, I see Mrs Patmore as an ESFJ, too. She can be really, really sweet, but can come out and be all mama bear on everyone, haha! And she seemed very skeptical of allowing Sybil to cook with her and Daisy, since she'd rather keep everyone in their place (Si?).

Ethel's pretty much the stereotypical cinematic/TV ESFP that gets in trouble for just jumping into things without thinking through them.

Agreed. I wish Lavinia's character had been more dimensional. She could have been a really interesting character, I think. *SPOILERS AHEAD* I feel like Fellowes could have really done something special with her character instead of just killing her off before she showed more of her personality. She does seem to be some sort of an Fe user, though. Like looking out for Matthew and wanting him to be happy even though it actually pained her.

What about 8w7 for Sir Richard's gut fix? I don't know too much about Eights and Sevens, but from my understanding of Eight, when it's unhealthy, it's about controlling people, which he clearly loves to do. :p

 
#24 ·
I actually thought Mary was an INTP, I haven't seen anyone ever type her as that except me, but I don't really buy the idea that she uses Se, because she doesn't live in the moment. The Pamuk thing was hardly consent, and other than that she's basically done nothing reckless at all. She is so observant and good at reading people/situations, and she spends like all of her time thinking. And couldn't her ice queen demeanour have to with having an inferior Fe? And she uses both Ne and Si, which would explain how she both can see that her situation as a woman in the society is unfair, but at the same time feels bound by traditional values.
She's just so logical and pragmatic, but not into controlling people, and clearly intelligent. She gives me NT vibes. So yeah.

Also, I don't know enneagram types that well, but out of curiosity what was the reason for Sybil as 9w8? Isn't 9 the peacemaker type? Sybil seems more invested in getting to do what she wants/be fulfilled as a person, than she is in everyone getting along. I thought she was maybe 3w4 or 4w3.
 
#25 ·
Robert Crawley - ESFJ 2w3 Sp/So
Cora Crawley - ISFJ 2w1 So/Sx
Violet Crawley - ESTJ 1w2 So/Sp
Mary Crawley - ESTP 3w4 Sx/Sp
Edith Crawley - ISxJ 2w1 Sp/So
Sybil Crawley - ENFP 9w8 Sx/So
Matthew Crawley - INFP 6w5 So/Sx
Isobel Crawley - ENFJ 2w3 So/Sx

Charles Carson - ISTJ 1w2 So/Sp
Elsie Hughes - ISFJ 1w2 So/Sp
John Bates - ISFJ 2w1 So/Sx
Sarah O'Brien - INTJ 6w7 Sp/So
Thomas Barrow - ENTP 7w8 Sp/Sx
William Mason - ISFP 6w7 So/Sx
Anna Smith - INFJ 2w1 Sx/So
Tom Branson - ENTP Counter-phobic 6w5 Sp/Sx
I would agree with most of these except Mary, Isobel, and Carson. Mary strikes me as an Intuitive and definitely a J. I would say either an INTJ or ENTJ, But I'd be more inclined towards ENTJ. As for Isobel; take it from me, I'm your classic ENFJ 2w1 and I really could not connect with her character much at all. She does not strike me as an intuitive character, but more like a sensor. Definitely an extroverted feeler but not an ENFJ. I'm thinking more along the lines of an ESFJ. Now, Matthew's character strikes me more as an ENFJ, but I can understand why people think of him as an INFP. He does seem more "J" to me, though. As for Carson, I think of him more as an ESTJ than ISTJ. The guy would be exhausted in that job as an introvert. Not that an introvert couldn't make it work, but I get more of an extroverted vibe. Both the ESTJ and ISTJ descriptions seem to fit him, though.
 
#27 ·
I agree with most of this, stopped watching after halfway through the 4th series though - so the characterizations could have gone a different way :laughing:

I think Sybil is an Fi user, most likely INFP. I have seen Mary typed as ISTP, why do you think ENTJ, out of curiosity?

I think Isobel is so Fe dominant, its one of the things that annoys Violet!
 
#29 ·
@Dragongirl - She never hesitates to voice her opinion or turn a witty phrase especially, when she thinks she's been insulted or even criticized. She has incredible insight about everyone including the servants. Remember when she warned Carson that Thomas was after his job? Suppresses her emotions like a typical ENTJ. It took her a long time to realize she had feelings for Matthew and comes across as cold to others. Mary also embraces the new. Yes, she defends the system which gives her privileges but, she has proven to embrace new fashions ways of running the estate, she doesn't disapprove of Rose's relationship with Jack Ross but understands that nothing could ever happen between the too of them. I could go on....
 
#30 ·
@Dragongirl - She never hesitates to voice her opinion or turn a witty phrase especially, when she thinks she's been insulted or even criticized. She has incredible insight about everyone including the servants. Remember when she warned Carson that Thomas was after his job? Suppresses her emotions like a typical ENTJ. It took her a long time to realize she had feelings for Matthew and comes across as cold to others. Mary also embraces the new. Yes, she defends the system which gives her privileges but, she has proven to embrace new fashions ways of running the estate, she doesn't disapprove of Rose's relationship with Jack Ross but understands that nothing could ever happen between the too of them. I could go on....
Thanks! I also see Mary as ENTJ. I agree with everything on your list. Except for Sybil who is an ENFP I think ( she is a little bit too energetic/expressive/easy to talk to to be an I, but she has high Fi)
 
#32 ·
How the Crowley sisters deal with their (SFJ) parents is very revealing:

ENTJ Mary rolls her eyes, destroys her father's reasoning, and proceeds to do what she knows to be the right thing
ISFJ Edith wrings her hands and tries to please them. I think Edith is an SFJ because she's too bound to what others will think of her actions for SP-dom. Rose is an SFP and Edith would never put her own desires first like that.
INFJ Sybil does what she believes is right, then persuades others to be happy for her. Branson's the Ne in the pairing, always daring Sybil to think about something different. Sybil's the Ni--once she's convinced that Branson is right, she's not changing her mind.

For Daisy, I've been leaning toward ISTJ for a while--her reasoning seems to come down to "that's not the way it's done," with the jealous undercurrents speaking to lower Fi and higher Te. I also don't see much in the way of Se or Ne, but I think there is a lot of Si in her understanding of how things work and inferior Ne in how she often misinterprets things. If everything was the same but the character's gender, I bet we'd have called it ISTJ from the start.
 
#34 ·
Re Sybil, I could see her as an INFP in the later episodes, who seemed ENFP in the first series - her Te does seem stronger than her Si?

In the first series she is about possibilities, for example when Gwen the maid is looking for a job, Sybil is the one who keeps coming up with new possibilities every time they are met with frustration. She seems excited by new ideas; she embraces her new interest in feminism in going to political rallies, supporting Gwen empowering herself and finding a new job, wearing Harem Pants (remember when THIS was considered a dramatic ending to an episode XD) – I think Ni is more likely to focus on an end result or more likely to stick to a vision – I think in the second season during the War she seems to put aside her ideas of feminism and political change for the new idea of being a nurse?

She doesn’t strike me as a Fe user; she is incredibly private and emotionally independent. She doesn’t agree to go away with Branson until she internalizes it and feels what is right for her. She seems much more internally driven than driven by external factors.

She uses Te in taking actions, helping Gwen achieve her goals; she wants to help out during the war so she becomes a nurse. She is forbidden for going to the rally, but she manages to create a ruse so she can.

And Si, while she embraces change and new possibilities, she still is slightly reluctant to leave behind the structure and familiarity of home, once her passion for politics is pique she seems to want to gather as much knowledge or experience of it as she can, canvassing, going to rally, reading pamphlets, discussing it with Branson etc?

Re-watched the first series this weekend, so its still fresh in my mind :happy:
 
#35 ·
@Dragongirl After doing some research and re-watching Sybil's scenes from Downton Abbey, I can definitely see her extroverted intuition. However, I am still not sure if she is an Fi dominant or Ne dominant. ENFP seems like the best answer.
@TyranAmiros What makes you think Edith's auxiliary function is Fe? Edith conceals her emotions and only releases them when she is angry or devastated. On the hand, Robert is a classic example of Fe. He never fails to express his emotions and bases everything he does on what is best for Downton. Edith is very concerned with her own feelings and what is best for her. On another note, Daisy doesn't come across to me as an ISTJ. She seems like an ISTP or ESTP.
 
#36 ·
@ADMORRIS :
I'd agree on Daisy if I saw even a hint of Se, but I don't see her as an Se user, at least not an Se dominant or auxiliary.

On Edith, I think it's clear she's an extraverted judger. She doesn't bore easily or challenge others like an extraverted perceiving type would. And since she's too in the moment, focused on past slights and comparisons, for Ni, but that's right in line with Si. So I find the ISxJ to be pretty straightforward.
 
#37 ·
Robert - ISFJ
Cora - ESFJ
Violet - ESTJ
Isobel - ESFJ
Sybil - ISFP
Mary - xNTJ
Edith - xSFJ
Carson - ISTJ
Hughes - xSTJ
O'brien - ISTP?? I really am confused on her.
Thomas - ESFP
Daisy - ISTJ
Patmore - ExTP
Ethel - ESFP
Gwen - ISTJ
Matthew - ISTJ
Branson - ENTP or xNFJ
Bates - ISTJ
Anna - ISTP??

This is all based on the first couple seasons, I don't watch anymore.
 
#38 ·
Robert: ISFJ
Cora: ESFJ
Violet: ESTJ
Isobel: EXFJ. Probably ESFJ, hence the fighting with Cora.
Sybil: INFP
Mary: EXTJ
Edith: ISFP
Carson: ISTJ
Hughes: ISFJ
O'Brien: INTJ (?) Seems good at scheming, then again her constant bitching is probably low-order Fe.
Thomas: Unsure. ISTP?
Daisy: ISTJ / IXFP. Think she's an emotional decision maker, but no Fe.
Patmore: ESTJ
Ethel: ESFP
Gwen: No idea. ISTJ?
Matthew: INFP. Goes by his emotions.
Branson: ENXP
Bates: ISXJ, probably ISTJ
Anna: ENFP
 
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