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This is a discussion on Snow White and the Huntsman within the Guess the type forums, part of the What's my personality type? category; Originally Posted by Rim Does this make you INTP? Is that really Ne? I understood it as thinking in options ...
I'm not an expert in Ne but I'm calling it as I saw it. Seeing possibilities beyond the immediate context is a fine description. In Snow White's case, it was more improv along a roller coaster ride rather than say jumping out the roller coaster and into hijacking a submarine ftw.Originally Posted by Rim
Not necessarily. I'm pretty sure that's intuition - the hunch that she can trust the birds. The choice she makes to follow the birds or not to follow them would be Fi. Ne would read into the intention of the birds (they gave me the nail, it's right to follow them) and would read further into their actions by coupling it with past information and then attempting to find a pattern for their behavior in what they are trying to do (the birds are helping me and will continue to help me if I follow them).
I disagree a bit on this too. The whole scene displays numerous possibilities to her in terms of what route she could use to escape. She sees numerous avenues or things she could use to find a way out but she trusts the birds who tell her to run into the sewer to find her way to the ocean. I also think her sensitivity to the birds would imply a bit of Ne as well. She understands that they are trying to help her even if that particular notion may seem impossible or improbable - she believes in it and she trusts in it. That strikes me as being very intuitive rather then sensory. We see what the birds are doing as obvious because we are seeing it in her view, in her mind. It looks like the logical choice to her. That doesn't necessarily mean it was obvious to others in my opinion. For instance I doubt the Huntsman or William would chose to follow the birds, that wouldn't be practical to either of them.We see the birds as symbols or "patterns and abstract tools", but what signs do we get that she sees them beyond an avenue for escape (the birds were visually quite obvious in what they were doing)?
This seems a bit like Fi-Si, I remember how things were and the way they used to be that means things must still be the way they once were. That's the Si perception of reality (subjective perception over objective perception).Keep in mind that Snow white has been locked up in a cell during the corruption and so hasn't seen the extent of how dark reality became. Her memories may be more of in line with the happier days of her youth.
I don't necessarily think she sees Ravenna as pure evil. Just that she needs to be restored to power and she can't let other things die anymore (Fi) I think the Ne comes when she realizes that she can't let it continue as she understands now that it will never stop until she assumes power. What your saying to me sounds more like Fi-Te rather then pure Fi or even Ne. Fi-Te would feel the need to demonize the evil. Te would feel the need to destroy and kill to protect the virtue (we see this a bit with William who wants to kill the Queen).Mostly Fi here. From her speech alone, its all first hand experience. Now if she had started pontificating religious sermons and demonizing Ravenna, calling her the scourge or blight of the land, then I'd be more convinced of Ne.
What are your thoughts about Snow White's last words to Ravenna when she is dying? The "You can't have my heart" quote.
Assigning trust to a perception is a Feeling judgment in itself. However, the movie plays it out as if the birds were giving her very tell-tale signs, to the point where its not a matter of trust but of the birds showing her the escape path itself. i.e. Snow white sees the escape path (Se) as pointed out by the birds. Now if the birds were more enigmatic in their approach (like a puzzle), then the Ne argument would be more convincing.
Once again, trust can only be tested or made clear when presented with ambiguous signs and still following through. This goes back to the argument of taking the object beyond the immediate context. If the birds DREW a map of an escape plan that looked like it could work, the trust would not fall to the birds themselves but to the escape plan. In that one scene when snow white was scanning the castle terrace, she's looking an opportunity for escape. Suddenly, the birds swoop down and fly into the sewers as if presenting the opportunity to her. Her trust was not in the birds themselves but the opportunity that she was presented with.I disagree a bit on this too. The whole scene displays numerous possibilities to her in terms of what route she could use to escape. She sees numerous avenues or things she could use to find a way out but she trusts the birds who tell her to run into the sewer to find her way to the ocean. I also think her sensitivity to the birds would imply a bit of Ne as well. She understands that they are trying to help her even if that particular notion may seem impossible or improbable - she believes in it and she trusts in it. That strikes me as being very intuitive rather then sensory. We see what the birds are doing as obvious because we are seeing it in her view, in her mind. It looks like the logical choice to her. That doesn't necessarily mean it was obvious to others in my opinion. For instance I doubt the Huntsman or William would chose to follow the birds, that wouldn't be practical to either of them.
That point was made to clarify that her reality may not been tainted by corruption due to such a long imprisonment so any Si, Se argument pertaining to motivation would be fuzzy.This seems a bit like Fi-Si, I remember how things were and the way they used to be that means things must still be the way they once were. That's the Si perception of reality (subjective perception over objective perception).
She doesn't hate Ravenna but rather feels 'pity' for her. I was posing a hypothetical to drive the point of what explicitly taking reality to a larger context would look like. Instead, the speech only communicated first-hand experience of trauma which wasn't a clear indicator of taking a stance beyond stopping a corruption that everyone already sees.I don't necessarily think she sees Ravenna as pure evil. Just that she needs to be restored to power and she can't let other things die anymore (Fi) I think the Ne comes when she realizes that she can't let it continue as she understands now that it will never stop until she assumes power. What your saying to me sounds more like Fi-Te rather then pure Fi or even Ne. Te would feel the need to destroy and kill to protect the virtue (we see this a bit with William who wants to kill the Queen).
A ticklish retort or an odd double entrendre. Beyond the obvious plot-line, the heart represents life-force itself which is antagonistic to death. No matter how much Ravenna or death personified wants to consume it, it is ultimately fatal in both a figurative and literal sense. I call this a scriptwriter magic/cheeze/ploy but it makes me smile ;)What are your thoughts about Snow White's last words to Ravenna when she is dying? The "You can't have my heart" quote.
Insanely predictable plot....bad story progression, acting isn't any good, boring characters that don't grip me and I was disappointed (the trailer was good). Stopped watching around 50 minutes into the movie.
The whole thing was/is too shallow to dive in and enjoy....nice effects thou and plenty of tough hot guys/fair maidens for a fantasy movie.
Snow White - too shitty acting to tell, probably ISFP...based on the lines of dialogue she has. ( I hear tell IxSPs don't talk much, other then that I can't tell.)
This movie is very cheesy.
Imo the problem here is that Kristen Stewart plays Kristen Stewart and not Snow White. How can one tell the mbti type lol?
Last time I check this was to type characters, not judge movies and definitely not bash them or the actors in them. I can't report this since you did put isfp in your bash fest. Good thinking on that one.
BTW thou is spelled though and I've never heard of ixsp before.
XD must be because I wrote it at 3 am my time on a Saturday lol (meant to write ISxP). It isn't a bash fest, hmm its a honest opinion. She can't act and the character doesn't come across, so judging the type is nigh impossible. Information is too limited.Last time I check this was to type characters, not judge movies and definitely not bash them or the actors in them. I can't report this since you did put isfp in your bash fest. Good thinking on that one.
BTW thou is spelled though and I've never heard of ixsp before.
I very much like ISFPs tbh.
I couldn't really tell if Ravenna was a introvert or extrovert in the movie... she seemed a bit of both? but i'm leaning towards extrovert for some reason... she charmed the King into marrying her and also the things she did weren't very 'dignified' like a ISFJ would be... think Bloody Mary (a classic unhealthy ISFJ)
Err... i dunno she seems a bit ESFJ, i mean she liked the crowd and barely wore anything she had a lot of confidence... Mabye ENFJ? She has a Morgana thing going on.
Just because she locked herself in her room often with a mirror doesn't mean she's antisocial and didn't long for company, she seemed a bit like a extrovert in denial tbh.
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