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This is a discussion on Mood Disorders and Anxiety Disorders as a Symptom within the General Psychology forums, part of the Topics of Interest category; I feel I need to preface this with non-WTF-inducing language. I've been in intensive EMDR therapy for the past 5 ...

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    Mood Disorders and Anxiety Disorders as a Symptom

    I feel I need to preface this with non-WTF-inducing language. I've been in intensive EMDR therapy for the past 5 months. Through this therapy, I've discovered that virtually all of my emotional problems are correlated with a single unresolved childhood issue that colors and qualifies everything I say and do in life...it is the very theme for my existence. This has led to the strong conviction that mental illness (at least mood/anxiety disorders) are in fact a symptom of a sick spirit rather than a primary disorder caused by genetics or inhaling too much Tilex as a child. Okay, that was still pretty WTF-inducing. The rest of this is the musings of my own mind on this topic...it's not written to communicate clearly but rather to express openly. I'm curious if others (particularly bipolar, depressive, OCD, etc. others) have considered this line of thinking before:

    One of the most interesting things I've discovered through 5 months of intensive EMDR therapy is the fact that my bipolar mood swings are directly triggered by unresolved childhood issues. It makes me take a step back from years of believing in the random genetic oddity of bipolar mood swings...now seeing it as the human psyche's organic reaction to visceral pain or grief that has not been allowed its full expression and subsequent graceful departure from the mind.

    The fact that a mood stabilizer unquestionably reduces mood swings is less because of their correcting a genetic-defect chemical imbalance and more because of the forced chemical repression of our childhood emotions...the emotions that haunt us in our subconscious all the time. We are only truly free of the mood swings when we are truly free of the pain that consumes us.

    At the end of this epiphany, I'm left still believing in the aggressive use of drug treatment as a stop-gap until the emotions and the mind are healed...so one can function in day-to-day life. Once healed, however, one can be free from the constricting and lobotomizing chemicals whilst also free from the consuming pain and anguish of self-loathing and grief that stem from the immovable and sardonic mockery of our adult mind: that we are a mistake...that we are worthless garbage...that we do not deserve to live...that our very existence is the result of a broken condom or a forgotten pill.

    To accept this root command in our minds...to accept its connotations and symbolic communication is to accept the other side of ourselves. It unlocks and unleashes another component of our very being whom we recall only vaguely from our early childhood. The unwanted traits and unwanted talents we've all-but purged from our conscious being continue to exist in our subconscious mind through adulthood. They rear their ugly and beautiful head when our childhood self reacts understandably and toxically to archetypes found in our adult lives...leaving our adult minds confused and disoriented at the irrational displacement we fail to recognize. They rear their ugly head in unwanted addictions, generalized anxiety, social anxiety, anger, mood swings and obsessive-compulsive tendencies. We may repress them, but they refuse to be completely ignored. Like the unloved child they represent, they are desperate for attention and they are desperate for affection and are willing to do whatever it takes to be recognized.

    To reintegrate our childhood selves is to embrace our full being and to "find" ourselves...to find the things we've lost or, rather, the things we've hidden from ourselves to insulate us. It is as painful as it is freeing. Like Peter Pan, a part of us has never grown up and never will grow up. That side of us wants to be a part of our daily lives...it wants to contribute to our adult selves and be honored and recognized for what it is. The rejection of its contribution is the very thing that keeps us from being all we can be in this world.

    By accepting our childhood self, we discover the capacity to love...the capacity to attach to others...the capacity to care...the capacity to feel compassion and to understand other people. Rather than react toxically to the toxic reactions of other hurting people, through our own emotional health we recognize the root of their toxicity and feel compassion for them. Rather than being lost in self-absorption and self-reproach, we now focus our attention outward and see others as damaged creatures who desperately need healing.

    The world itself changes from a dangerous and hostile place from which we should withdraw to a giant mental hospital of patients who don't know they're sick...of sparrows who go on in their daily lives unaware that their wings have been clipped. The world, though still cold and dark, begins to look as a place that needs more mercy and love rather than more law and order.

    First one must show mercy to one's self...then one can show mercy to others.

    It ^ is what it is.
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    I don't have any unresolved childhood issues, so, I can't relate to unresolved childhood trauma causing my bipolar disorder. Also, I dislike dichotomies between the "brain" and the "mind" ... and that's what this essentially conveys.

    There also seems to be little evidence to support the claims that this works, and with for a person with bipolar disorder, I worry that they're experiencing euphoria in a manic, hypomanic or mixed state rather than actual benefits. Until a significant number of studies shows that there is significant efficacy in this treatment as opposed to other forms of treatment, to me it fits under the CAM umbrella and has little if any legitimacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koalaroo View Post
    I don't have any unresolved childhood issues, so, I can't relate to unresolved childhood trauma causing my bipolar disorder. Also, I dislike dichotomies between the "brain" and the "mind" ... and that's what this essentially conveys.
    I see the mind, as it were, as a colloquialism to describe our conscious awareness and the brain as the bodily organ where that awareness lies. The mind is a logical construct we superimpose on the physical brain because we can understand the workings of the mind better than the brain. We really know very little about the brain but we can say there is a connection between what we think about (in our mind, as it were) and what we physically experience. If one dwells on one's fear of spiders, their adrenaline will rush, their heart will palpitate, and they'll cease to think clearly. So while the brain is all there really is in the real world of the 5 senses, our logical experience revolves around the mind more than the brain.

    I won't dispute your claim of having no childhood issues because only you would truly know, however one recognizes a childhood issue when someone (say, a boss or a girl/boyfriend or parent-in-law, etc.) says or does something that greatly upsets you and you can't rationally explain why they upset you so. It can linger for minutes, hours, days, or even weeks. If you're ultradian or even ultra-rapid, it can be falsely recognized as a switch into [hypo]manic dysphoria (anger/anxiety/suicidal thoughts/etc.) and the connection is not consciously made. You just know you hate the person and attribute it to mood cycling. You can't consciously see the displacement happening in your mind.

    There also seems to be little evidence to support the claims that this works, and with for a person with bipolar disorder, I worry that they're experiencing euphoria in a manic, hypomanic or mixed state rather than actual benefits. Until a significant number of studies shows that there is significant efficacy in this treatment as opposed to other forms of treatment, to me it fits under the CAM umbrella and has little if any legitimacy.
    As someone who normally experiences agitated hypomania about 80% of the time as part of my bipolar experience, I can reassure you it's most definitely not euphoria or hypomania or a mixed state (hypomanic dysphoria or mixed depression). If anything, the vast majority of the EMDR targets have induced pure depression and extreme levels of introspection. My stream of racing thoughts slows to a trickle and my tendency to be driven and hyper turns to a tendency to be withdrawn and slow-moving.

    But I understand your skepticism. Unfortunately, when you're dealing with logical constructs (like the mind, emotions, feelings, etc. which aren't factually measurable against any kind of benchmark), you can't really test whether something truly works. It's more of a case-study basis.

    If someone says they "feel" better about themselves, you can't measure that and compare it against how they felt before therapy. You can play the "scale of 1-10" game that shrinks do but those numbers are incredibly arbitrary and even how the patient interprets their own numbering changes as they progress through therapy.



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    @Popinjay - I've never had a psychiatrist use a 1-10 scale with me. Just the fools at the student health center, with a scale of one to ten and a smiley and sad face asking me how much pain I'm in! Most useless thing, ever ... only surpassed by the stupidity of an OB/GYN nurse telling a woman she'll "know" what a contraction is when she's having it.
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