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    Autism and personality types

    My question is, does autism in any way affect the personality type of a person?



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    Probably not.
    I mean, they still have personalities, autism wouldn't affect it.

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    Well...

    Recently, a discussion began in the INTJ forum to discuss the topic of if the MTBI is impacted by Asperger's, Asperger's relation with the INTJ type and if those with Asperger's are more likely to fall within our domain. You can see the discussion started by @Monkey Fritz here. For those wondering, Asperger's is a high functioning form of Autism and is a common point of discussion amongst INTJs, often because various people in and out of that type percieve similarities between these two groups. The source I used in that thread is actually more useful here than in the discussion on Asperger's. Surprisingly, it's beginning to look like the answer is yes to those three topics at the beginning of this paragraph.

    Within that thread, you will find one of my posts with a reference to an autism site. I do note weaknesses in using it in the discussion, but it does effectively represent a fairly slanted and particular set of trends, trends which lead to the creation of that aforementioned thread in the INTJ forum. The original poster of the autism poll asked for those with autism to state where they ended up. Here is a link to that thread, and I will restate my comments on it here.

    With general autism, the trend is strongly towards I and T. Of course, that site involves self-reporting and is not a standard test following scientific protocol or involving experts, so may fall victim to such things as the Forer effect or bias (what is expected of them). However, with Asperger's, where people are interested but incapable of "normal" social interaction, that might be different. Asperger's is very high functioning, and as that site demonstrates there are the odd people who show E or F traits, so this could be more common in the Asperger's subgroup of the overal Austism spectrum. N seems to be more common than S, although N shows up a lot more often than either E or F did. J seemed more common than P. Both of those function choices seemed to be an extremely rough 2:1 ratio.

    Most with autism ended up falling into areas such as INTJ, us, or INTP/ISTJs, our [one-letter off] crazy cousins (kidding guys, we love you). I would not be surprised if similar leanings could be superimposed on the Asperger's grouping in particular, if not more weakly so (both in overall amount and in severity of presence of those distinguishers) than in the overall Autism disorder group. Just my opinion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acerbusvenator View Post
    My question is, does autism in any way affect the personality type of a person?
    As @Khar was saying, i think autism is related to the parts of the brain responsible for cognitive functions, so I think it is actually a hyper extension of those functions, to the point where the weaker shadow functions are severely impaired. So an autistic child who tests as an INTJ would most likely be an INTJ, not an ENFP who's autism skewed the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The13thGuest View Post
    Probably not.
    I mean, they still have personalities, autism wouldn't affect it.
    Well, you don't catch autism like a flu, you're born with it... and, everyone has a personality (unless the person is brain dead).
    My question was rather like Khar and Monkey Fritz talked about. Does it strengthen some of the functions, or at least cause an illusion that some of the functions get more represented (like the I, T, and J function)

    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey Fritz View Post
    As @Khar was saying, i think autism is related to the parts of the brain responsible for cognitive functions, so I think it is actually a hyper extension of those functions, to the point where the weaker shadow functions are severely impaired. So an autistic child who tests as an INTJ would most likely be an INTJ, not an ENFP who's autism skewed the results.
    So basically it's just like a booster for some of the functions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acerbusvenator View Post
    So basically it's just like a booster for some of the functions?
    Some descriptions of autism indicate that it is because some parts of the brain are boosted, or significantly advanced. As a result other parts of the brain are diminished. So it's not really a stretch at all to apply that same philosophy to temperament. If someone suffering from autism seems like an unhealthy INTJ or an INTP, that is probably exactly what it amounts to. Only it clarifies that such "unhealthy" types can in fact be born that way, it's not just a matter of poor experiences and/or character.
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    Of course it does! That's like saying "does borderline personality disorder affect one's personality?". People with Aspergers frequently type as INTJs (though, in actuality aspies are far more like ISTJs) because that's the MBTI. A short quiz. It counts for nothing. I even typed as an INTJ, using the official MBTI.

    I doubt a lot of the time the applicability of Myers Briggs and Jungian functions because they don't always fit me and I find myself thinking "personality is not that rigid and I don't function that way at all". Ni and Ti are the closest functions I came to fully relating to, but I really am stretching it. I went a whole year thinking I didn't have a type and trolling but sometimes I do think I'm an INFJ. It was very hard for me to find a "type" though and when I finally felt comfortable with something it ended up being a tertiary loop that's said to find it hard to connect with other people and that's probably the only reason why I chose it. I can't tell if I'm being extremely subjective because those of us with Asperger's don't have the same personality as NTs (neurotypicals) or if the theory really is just bullshit.

    We can also have very different personalities from each other. I usually don't get along with people who have Aspergers (then again, I don't get along with INFJs, I fit in with ENTJs the most). But that's not why we don't have the same personalities as someone who's wired differently, we don't have the same personality as them because we're wired differently. I think the case is more severe for those with Autism. I typically don't like correlating personality disorders/syndromes with personality types. I think one would have to be very arrogant to have confidence in doing so, even if there are similarities, syndromes are medicine and proper psychology and personality types are theory. Huge difference. To say someone with a personality syndrome has a personality type defeats the purpose of it being a personality syndrome as well.

    (Since I can't say for sure whether this theory is right or wrong, if anyone's confused about that, think about it as agnostic atheism).
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    Quote Originally Posted by The13thGuest View Post
    Probably not.
    I mean, they still have personalities, autism wouldn't affect it.
    As someone with Asperger's, I'd have to disagree. While I have some moment where I can definitely say that it was autism that caused the behaviour/thought, most of the time my Aspergers and my personality are so woven into each other that it's difficult to tell what is 'me' and what is the syndrome. I don't think the two can be separated, and by extension I don't think autism and personality type can be separated. This might be different for more severe autism though.
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    So autism is kinda like a personality on the personality?

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    I think autism certainly affects personality, but there is still a lot of diversity in autism and I think autistics can have any personality type (though some might be more common). I'm an INFJ, for instance, and diagnosed with autism (and looked classically autistic as a child).
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