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    Female Social Behavior

    In response to a thread by mnemonicfx, I've started a new thread here to test a theory I proposed in his thread (What is with the amount of threads in specific forum of personality type?).

    I started this thread in the INTJ forum three days ago (Female Social Behavior). It has since gone cold.

    I am interesting in getting everyone's thoughts, so, please, discuss.

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    I read Rosalind Wiseman's book, Queen Bees and Wannabes, when my daughter was in middle school. I wanted to better understand the cliques and power trips she was likely to encounter as she began to mature.

    http://rosalindwiseman.com/publicati...-and-wannabes/
    Girl Cliques - The Roles Teen Girls Play

    In my perpetual unpacking, I found the book again and flipped through it last night. I was struck by how the roles, designed around pre-adolescent and teenaged girls are just as applicable to adult women. I have encountered each of these roles in my work.

    Queen Bee: alpha female; popularity is based on fear and control; charisma, looks, money, will, force, manipulation; weakens ties between others for the sake of strengthening her own power base

    Sidekick: second in command; appears to be the Queen’s twin but has no real power on her own

    Banker: keeper of the gossip; strategically dispenses tidbits to her advantage; can be as powerful as the Queen but does not publicly seek power

    Floater: has friends in several groups and can freely move between them; good characteristics (attractive, intelligent, charismatic) but not enough to threaten the Queen; often has good self-esteem

    Torn Bystander: caught between parties in conflicts; rationalizes the Queen’s behavior even knowing it is wrong; values access to the clique’s power more than her own principles

    Pleaser/Wannabe: supports the Queen and Sidekick at all costs; desperate to fit in but does not want to be seen as trying too hard; often ends up doing the dirty work for the Queen

    Target: victim of the clique; can be outside the group or inside; if inside the group, the status is likely the result of challenging the Queen’s power
    Can you identify women in your life who fill one or more of these roles?

    Do you think these roles are more likely to be filled by a particular personality type?

    What behaviors are most obvious in adult women that would slot them into one of these roles?

    Are there other roles not listed here?



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    I've grown up around women who've filled these roles in varying degrees and ratios. For instance, in elementary school there was a group of girls where the "queen" and "sidekick" roles were interchangeable between these two girls. I actually think all of these roles can be adapted by different women, depending on the politics of the group. In middle school, I was befriended a girl was a "target" but just a few days ago she was the "queen" of the group, but had a fallout with another girl.

    I don't think that any type would be more likely to fall into certain roles, I think these roles are dependant on the maturity of the individual. Me personally, I have been in every single one of these roles throughout my life except for the banker (I think gossipping behinds people's back is incredibly rude), and queen bee.

    As a whole, I think we are all susceptible to these behaviours as described above, both men and women, they just tend to manifest themselves in different ways. I remember a group of guys I went to high school with, who more or less encompassed these roles, but not in ways that we typically think of. For example the "banker" of the group didn't bitch about other guy's clothes or looks, but instead focused more on who was considered a wuss, and other traits that weren't dependant on physical presentation. It wasn't typical female gossip, but it was still talking about others behind their backs, and not saying it to their face.
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    im a floater. thats for sure.
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    Since I don't fit into any of these groups I am going to suggest to add a new one. The social independent. That is what I am. I don't follow anyone nor do I lead anyone. I deal with individuals and never the group as a whole so I am not a floater. And I am not the victim either since I will kick butt on anyone that tries that crap on me. I could care less about gossip so I am not the banker. I could care less about parties or even the social group so I am not the bystander. So that makes me completely independent. It is a beautiful place to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChanceyRose View Post

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    I read Rosalind Wiseman's book, Queen Bees and Wannabes, when my daughter was in middle school. I wanted to better understand the cliques and power trips she was likely to encounter as she began to mature.

    http://rosalindwiseman.com/publicati...-and-wannabes/
    Girl Cliques - The Roles Teen Girls Play

    In my perpetual unpacking, I found the book again and flipped through it last night. I was struck by how the roles, designed around pre-adolescent and teenaged girls are just as applicable to adult women. I have encountered each of these roles in my work.

    Queen Bee: alpha female; popularity is based on fear and control; charisma, looks, money, will, force, manipulation; weakens ties between others for the sake of strengthening her own power base

    Sidekick: second in command; appears to be the Queen’s twin but has no real power on her own

    Banker: keeper of the gossip; strategically dispenses tidbits to her advantage; can be as powerful as the Queen but does not publicly seek power

    Floater: has friends in several groups and can freely move between them; good characteristics (attractive, intelligent, charismatic) but not enough to threaten the Queen; often has good self-esteem

    Torn Bystander: caught between parties in conflicts; rationalizes the Queen’s behavior even knowing it is wrong; values access to the clique’s power more than her own principles

    Pleaser/Wannabe: supports the Queen and Sidekick at all costs; desperate to fit in but does not want to be seen as trying too hard; often ends up doing the dirty work for the Queen

    Target: victim of the clique; can be outside the group or inside; if inside the group, the status is likely the result of challenging the Queen’s power
    Can you identify women in your life who fill one or more of these roles?

    Do you think these roles are more likely to be filled by a particular personality type?

    What behaviors are most obvious in adult women that would slot them into one of these roles?

    Are there other roles not listed here?
    Personally, in high school I did my best to avoid these types of girls, which landed my in my group of friends, which were not any of these types. Oh, so lucky. Although this behavior was typical of most girls' groups, my friends and I decided we were better than this.

    I would probably be a floater, except with the part that says "not enough to threaten the queen", if there was a "queen" in my circle, no doubt I could challenge easily, but I probably wouldn't want the drama or wasted effort that it would involve. Everybody would know this fact, too.

    Unfortunately, as you said, even when you get out of high school these types follow in more social settings.

    My workplace was fairly casual, so clique-like drama persued. My boss being a female, took the role of Queen Bee, naturally. I have dealt with the Banker, who would use gossip against everybody, but fortunately for me, my work ethic kept all of her tidbits at bay to the real truth.

    There are definitely more roles, but it's hard to pin-point exactly what they are between people.
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    I dunno, I'm just a very down to earth person. Plus I never gave a shit in HS about where I sat at lunch, infact I used to sit with the seniors who were popular. I ended up ditching them to sit with the freshmen nerds! I dunno... I like pretty things, and nice cars. But I would never base my opinion around someone who has those things. Because things aren't always pretty on the inside =P
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