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    GIANT study says coffee drinkers live LONGER!

    Coffee buzz: Java drinkers live longer, big study finds; regular and decaf are equally good

    By Associated Press, Published: May 16MILWAUKEE —
    One of life’s simple pleasures just got a little sweeter. After years of waffling research on coffee and health, even some fear that java might raise the risk of heart disease, a big study finds the opposite: Coffee drinkers are a little more likely to live longer. Regular or decaf doesn’t matter.

    The study of 400,000 people is the largest ever done on the issue, and the results should reassure any coffee lovers who think it’s a guilty pleasure that may do harm.

    “Our study suggests that’s really not the case,” said lead researcher Neal Freedman of the National Cancer Institute. “There may actually be a modest benefit of coffee drinking.”

    No one knows why. Coffee contains a thousand things that can affect health, from helpful antioxidants to tiny amounts of substances linked to cancer. The most widely studied ingredient — caffeine — didn’t play a role in the new study’s results.

    It’s not that earlier studies were wrong. There is evidence that coffee can raise LDL, or bad cholesterol, and blood pressure at least short-term, and those in turn can raise the risk of heart disease.

    Even in the new study, it first seemed that coffee drinkers were more likely to die at any given time. But they also tended to smoke, drink more alcohol, eat more red meat and exercise less than non-coffee-drinkers. Once researchers took those things into account, a clear pattern emerged: Each cup of coffee per day nudged up the chances of living longer.

    The study was done by the National Institutes of Health and AARP. The results are published in Thursday’s New England Journal of Medicine.

    Careful, though — this doesn’t prove that coffee makes people live longer, only that the two seem related. Like most studies on diet and health, this one was based strictly on observing people’s habits and resulting health. So it can’t prove cause and effect.

    But with so many people, more than a decade of follow-up and enough deaths to compare, “this is probably the best evidence we have” and are likely to get, said Dr. Frank Hu of the Harvard School of Public Health. He had no role in this study but helped lead a previous one that also found coffee beneficial.

    The new one began in 1995 and involved AARP members ages 50 to 71 in California, Florida, Louisiana, New Jersey, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Atlanta and Detroit. People who already had heart disease, a stroke or cancer weren’t included. Neither were folks at diet extremes — too many or too few calories per day.

    The rest gave information on coffee drinking once, at the start of the study. “People are fairly consistent in their coffee drinking over their lifetime,” so the single measure shouldn’t be a big limitation, Freedman said.

    Of the 402,260 participants, about 42,000 drank no coffee. About 15,000 drank six cups or more a day. Most people had two or three.

    By 2008, about 52,000 of them had died. Compared to those who drank no coffee, men who had two or three cups a day were 10 percent less likely to die at any age. For women, it was 13 percent.

    Even a single cup a day seemed to lower risk a little: 6 percent in men and 5 percent in women. The strongest effect was in women who had four or five cups a day — a 16 percent lower risk of death.

    None of these are big numbers, though, and Freedman can’t say how much extra life coffee might buy.

    “I really can’t calculate that,” especially because smoking is a key factor that affects longevity at every age, he said.

    Coffee drinkers were less likely to die from heart or respiratory disease, stroke, diabetes, injuries, accidents or infections. No effect was seen on cancer death risk, though.

    Other research ties coffee drinking to lower levels of markers for inflammation and insulin resistance. Researchers also considered that people in poor health might refrain from drinking coffee and whether their abstention could bias the results. But the study excluded people with cancer and heart disease — the most common health problems — to minimize this chance. Also, the strongest benefits of coffee drinking were seen in people who were healthiest when the study began.

    About two-thirds of study participants drank regular coffee, and the rest, decaf. The type of coffee made no difference in the results.

    Hu had this advice for coffee lovers:
    — Watch the sugar and cream. Extra calories and fat could negate any benefits from coffee.
    — Drink filtered coffee rather than boiled — filtering removes compounds that raise LDL, the bad cholesterol.

    Researchers did not look at tea, soda or other beverages but plan to in future analyses.

    Lou and Mariann Maris have already compared them. Sipping a local brew at a lakefront coffee shop, the suburban Milwaukee couple told of how they missed coffee after briefly giving it up in the 1970s as part of a health kick that included transcendental meditation and eating vegetarian.

    Mariann Maris switched to tea after being treated for breast cancer in 2008, but again missed the taste of coffee. It’s one of life’s great pleasures, especially because her husband makes it, she said.

    “Nothing is as satisfying to me as a cup of coffee in the morning,” she said.
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    Source: Coffee buzz: Java drinkers live longer, big study finds; regular and decaf are equally good - The Washington Post


    I LOVE COFFEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now--everyone gets to drink more coffee! Without feeling bad! Drink more coffee everyone!
    Last edited by Kevinaswell; 05-21-2012 at 10:42 AM.
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    It's crazy to me that 400,000 people is a huge study when there are definitely more than 400,000 people consuming coffee, lol. Statistics are so flawed because not everyone can be studied and accounted for, and other factors aren't being taken into consideration. How do we know we just didn't get an exceptional amount of genetically health-inclined people to study? Statistics really mean so little to me these days. There is so much that isn't taken into account on studies like these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Face View Post
    It's crazy to me that 400,000 people is a huge study when there are definitely more than 400,000 people consuming coffee, lol. Statistics are so flawed because not everyone can be studied and accounted for, and other factors aren't being taken into consideration. How do we know we just didn't get an exceptional amount of genetically health-inclined people to study? Statistics really mean so little to me these days. There is so much that isn't taken into account on studies like these.
    ...err...as far as studies go---they don't get much more credible than this.

    What do you want? What would make you happy? Some incredibly unrealistic study that no one would ever be able to pull off? Get real, 400,000 is PLENTY for a valid result. Especially in a longitudinal study like this one. This is a great study, and the statistics aren't where the meaning is it's the conclusion where the meaning is found.

    Unless you're concluding something else from these results overall--I SUGGEST YOU DRINK MORE COFFEE SO YOU CAN BITCH ABOUT STUDIES FOR EVEN LONGER!!!! :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinaswell View Post
    ...err...as far as studies go---they don't get much more credible than this.

    What do you want? What would make you happy? Some incredibly unrealistic study that no one would ever be able to pull off? Get real, 400,000 is PLENTY for a valid result. Especially in a longitudinal study like this one. This is a great study, and the statistics aren't where the meaning is it's the conclusion where the meaning is found.

    Unless you're concluding something else from these results overall--I SUGGEST YOU DRINK MORE COFFEE SO YOU CAN BITCH ABOUT STUDIES FOR EVEN LONGER!!!! :D
    Lol, are you seriously offended? Statistics are flawed--that's fact. Not every factor is accounted for in these studies. If you like them, awesome--whatever floats your boat. I'm kind of over statistics at this point, and I have every right to say so :) That's no beef against you. If you think it is, that's your problem, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Face View Post
    Lol, are you seriously offended? Statistics are flawed--that's fact. Not every factor is accounted for in these studies. If you like them, awesome--whatever floats your boat. I'm kind of over statistics at this point, and I have every right to say so :) That's no beef against you. If you think it is, that's your problem, bro.
    Nah I'm not offended even a tad, I'm just rad.

    But I do think it's completely fucking ridiculous you just dismiss statistics overall though. Hahahaha.

    I mean really--that's just silly.

    But whatever floats your boat.

    Drink more coffee, regardless!!!!!!!!!!

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    I do not believe this study one bit. Next thing you know, they're going to come out with a study that too much coffee is bad for you.

    Starbucks probably paid them some monies to tell people to buy their overpriced coffee anyhow. Ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goesupinward View Post
    I do not believe this study one bit. Next thing you know, they're going to come out with a study that too much coffee is bad for you.

    Starbucks probably paid them some monies to tell people to buy their overpriced coffee anyhow. Ha.
    Actually, most of the studies up until now have suggested the exact opposite of this study, which is why this one is so interesting because it's so much more reliable than the previous ones.

    All previous ones were much smaller, were not longitudinal studies (the ideal type for this sort of conclusion) and basically not very awesome.

    And you say ''they'' like all the scientists are owned by starbucks. Lol. Stop watching conspiracy videos on youtube.

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    Sieg heil, mein KAFFEE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinaswell View Post
    Actually, most of the studies up until now have suggested the exact opposite of this study, which is why this one is so interesting because it's so much more reliable than the previous ones.

    All previous ones were much smaller, were not longitudinal studies (the ideal type for this sort of conclusion) and basically not very awesome.

    And you say ''they'' like all the scientists are owned by starbucks. Lol. Stop watching conspiracy videos on youtube.
    Obviously I was just joking about Starbucks paying them monies to the researchers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goesupinward View Post
    Obviously I was just joking about Starbucks paying them monies to the researchers.
    Oh horay---one day I hope the internet will find a way to properly convey those sorts of cues.

    Maybe it'll be implemented in HTML 6


 
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