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This is a discussion on Eating meat/dairy within the General Chat forums, part of the The Cafe Lounge category; Where all the meat eaters? There are several threads on vegetarian/vegan garbage. Humans are omnivores, not herbivores. Put down the ...

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    Eating meat/dairy

    Where all the meat eaters? There are several threads on vegetarian/vegan garbage. Humans are omnivores, not herbivores. Put down the salad fork and pick up the spatula and putt some burgers on the grill!


    Now let's look at all the benefits of eating meat:
    1. It's a good source of protein
    2. It has high quantities of iron
    3. The phosphorus in meat is aborbed more easily then from cereals and legumes
    4. Meat contains all the amino acids we need

    The benefits of drinking milk:
    1. Avoid osteoporosis, hypertension and colon cancer.
    2. Drinking milk can also protect you from tooth decays and cavity problems.
    3. Milk is a very good antacid.
    4. For strong bones, teeth, nails and good hair, drink a lot of milk as it is loaded with calcium that helps your body grow strong and flexible.

    Can your soymilk do all of that?

    Benefits of eating eggs:
    1. Eggs are great for the eyes. According to one study, an egg a day may prevent macular degeneraton due to the carotenoid content, specifically lutein and zeaxanthin. Both nutrients are more readily available to our bodies from eggs than from other sources.
    2. Eggs are great for the eyes. According to one study, an egg a day may prevent macular degeneraton due to the carotenoid content, specifically lutein and zeaxanthin. Both nutrients are more readily available to our bodies from eggs than from other sources.
    3. One egg contains 6 grams of high-quality protein and all 9 essential amino acids.
    4. They are a good source of choline. One egg yolk has about 300 micrograms of choline. Choline is an important nutrient that helps regulate the brain, nervous system, and cardiovascular system.
    5. Eggs may prevent breast cancer. In one study, women who consumed at least 6 eggs per week lowered their risk of breast cancer by 44%.
    6. Eggs promote healthy hair and nails because of their high sulphur content and wide array of vitamins and minerals. Many people find their hair growing faster after adding eggs to their diet, especially if they were previously deficient in foods containing sulphur or B12.


    If we were to stop eating meat what would become of all our livestock? Sure, we get wool from sheep, but what about the animals that aren't used for anything other then eating? What would happen to the farmers who rely on making money from their livestock?
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    Count me in!


    Mmmmm......

    Animals: fun to pet, better to eat!
    I think the rise of vegetarianism and animal rights whiners in America is because the average American is more sheltered from reality than ever before.
    Weren't too many people crying over slaughterhouses back when everyone knew somebody who worked at one.

    And humanity would collapse without the existence of icecream.

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    Meat is delicous but it makes some people want to hurl.

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    If done right, a completely plant based diet will supply ALL your nutrient needs (except B12). A person can even get all 9 essential amino acids in proper proportion (complete protein) easily from an all plant diet.

    I'm an omnivore, and like my burgers, but I actually don't eat as much meat as most people do.
    Eggs? Hecks YES!!!

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    ^^sponsor a vegetarian today!

    (note: I hate this site--but I thought this picture was funny as hell)
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    I wonder how many animals I've eaten in my life . Actually I don't.

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    When driving by cows I literally ask if I can have fries with that.


    Can I join the club?
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    Read the China Study Re: nutrients. The contention isn't between dairy milk and soy milk (both of which can be argued stronglly as having a detrimental effect on health). As a background my diet avoids all dairy aside from no-fat yoghurt (only if mixed with flax seed oil), and eggs. Other than that, no animal products. I don't like soy milk and drink none, yet according to my doctor on my, you would have it seem, terribley misguided idealist diet, I'm extremely healthy and have great levels of major nutrients. Yay me. I've also overcome persistant mood and health problems on this diet.

    I don't understand the need to widely advertise that you're somebody who actually sees animals on their way to slaughter and salivates instead of feeling any iota of pity, gratitude, or anything that in some way gives thanks for, or attempts to be empathetic to the ultimate sacrifice these animals make- just to end up on some shitty $3 cheeseburger.

    If killing animals is so appealing, right, and tasty to you - go take your four year old niece to the abattoir (or whatever small child applies), and have fun choosing your own cheeseburger filling - and watch the fun ensue. Let them meet the animal, watch it interact, do it's own thing for a while - and then have it slaughtered right in front of them. The reaction that child has is the one that you are SUPPOSED TO HAVE.

    Whether you eat meat or not, let's not get ridiculous and start trying to start a movement that says it's okay to feel no remorse over killing creatures that feel pain and emotions. It is not okay anymore than me killing your dog is okay.

    Also, just in passing, it's interesting to note that everyone knows Darwin theory but most don't know about his works supporting that animals can feel and display, most importantly in this instance, pain (both emotional and physical), as humans do.

    The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals - Charles Darwin, 1872

    A deliberate movement against compassion seems a very backward thing to do.

    Just to clarify, I don't think you're a bad person if you eat meat. I do think you're in a bad place developmentally, if you encourage feeling nothing for farmed animals (and those who are sypathetic), but contempt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHappyMinority View Post
    I don't understand the need to widely advertise that you're somebody who actually sees animals on their way to slaughter and salivates instead of feeling any iota of pity, gratitude, or anything that in some way gives thanks for, or attempts to be empathetic to the ultimate sacrifice these animals make- just to end up on some shitty $3 cheeseburger.
    I do.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHappyMinority View Post
    If killing animals is so appealing, right, and tasty to you - go take your four year old niece to the abattoir (or whatever small child applies), and have fun choosing your own cheeseburger filling - and watch the fun ensue. Let them meet the animal, watch it interact, do it's own thing for a while - and then have it slaughtered right in front of them. The reaction that child has is the one that you are SUPPOSED TO HAVE.
    I've met plenty of kids who have been raised around farms, or taken hunting with their families, or -like me- haven't really been around that stuff, who don't have any problem with the concept of where meat comes from. Stupid generalization.
    Kids also shit their pants when you tell them it's bed time; this should apply to adults as well?
    I guess the wisdom you take from children is selective at best, huh?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

    Don't imply other people have problems, just because you're overzealous.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHappyMinority View Post
    Whether you eat meat or not, let's not get ridiculous and start trying to start a movement that says it's okay to feel no remorse over killing creatures that feel pain and emotions. It is not okay anymore than me killing your dog is okay.
    You killing my dog is not okay because the dog is my property... It would be like me breaking the windshield of your car.
    There's no need to "start a movement", either, plenty of people are already realistic enough.
    The minority are just very loud complainers.

    On a related note...
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFUDEmMjC-c
    Last edited by BenW; 04-29-2009 at 11:26 AM.

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