[INFJ000]

On one hand I have an ESTP friend that has no idea at all when someone fancies her but on the otherhand I would imagine extraverted sensing would give it away? Can you tell?

[Korvyna]

I'm totally clueless when someone is into me. Unless they are just overly obvious I miss it. I've missed it my entire life. I've had people blatantly tell me they liked me for so many months, and I respond with "Seriously?" every single time.

Now, that being said, it seems to deal with me. I'm oblivious about when someone likes me.... However, I can tell when someone likes my friend or my friend likes someone... I'm just clueless about myself. *cough* low self esteem *cough*

[workaholicsanon]

I'm totally clueless when someone is into me. Unless they are just overly obvious I miss it. I've missed it my entire life. I've had people blatantly tell me they liked me for so many months, and I respond with "Seriously?" every single time.

Now, that being said, it seems to deal with me. I'm oblivious about when someone likes me.... However, I can tell when someone likes my friend or my friend likes someone... I'm just clueless about myself. *cough* low self esteem *cough*

Is this true for the guy ESTPs too? They always seem so confident and have high self-esteem!

[Korvyna]

Is this true for the guy ESTPs too? They always seem so confident and have high self-esteem!

People that don't know me think I have high self esteem because most of the time I'm smiling and not shy about talking to people... I'm racking my brain trying to think if any of my guy friends are ESTPs... If I can think of one I'll come back and update.

[TreeBob]

Is this true for the guy ESTPs too? They always seem so confident and have high self-esteem!

I think I do know if a girl likes me although sometimes I guess I don't admit it. I prefer that I get proof if I can. Such as the person admitting it. I some times manipulate situations to get it in the open. I might not make the first move but I will set it up so that the girl will usually either make the move or it will be quite obvious. It's fun and it works well for me. ESTP's come off as if they have self esteem but I think maybe it is really a front.

[Korvyna]

I think I do know if a girl likes me although sometimes I guess I don't admit it. I prefer that I get proof if I can. Such as the person admitting it. I some times manipulate situations to get it in the open. I might not make the first move but I will set it up so that the girl will usually either make the move or it will be quite obvious. It's fun and it works well for me. ESTP's come off as if they have self esteem but I think maybe it is really a front.

I can agree with this... I too manipulate situations to see if someone likes me. I hate to manipulate, but I'd rather not be blunt about being interested in someone, unless I'm almost positive the feelings are mutual.

[INFJ000]

I'm totally clueless when someone is into me. Unless they are just overly obvious I miss it. I've missed it my entire life. I've had people blatantly tell me they liked me for so many months, and I respond with "Seriously?" every single time.

Now, that being said, it seems to deal with me. I'm oblivious about when someone likes me.... However, I can tell when someone likes my friend or my friend likes someone... I'm just clueless about myself. *cough* low self esteem *cough*

This is exactly like my friend I am amazed she can't see it. To me some guys are practically wearing "I LOVE YOU" t-shirts, there was this one guy that laughed at all her jokes all night, followed her about the bar, smiled at her constantly and when she left shouted "no please don't go" and she STILL couldn't tell!

Is this true for the guy ESTPs too? They always seem so confident and have high self-esteem!

I was wondering this too...

I think I do know if a girl likes me although sometimes I guess I don't admit it. I prefer that I get proof if I can. Such as the person admitting it. I some times manipulate situations to get it in the open. I might not make the first move but I will set it up so that the girl will usually either make the move or it will be quite obvious. It's fun and it works well for me. ESTP's come off as if they have self esteem but I think maybe it is really a front.

I can agree with this... I too manipulate situations to see if someone likes me. I hate to manipulate, but I'd rather not be blunt about being interested in someone, unless I'm almost positive the feelings are mutual.

What if the person couldn't admit it, how would you find out? Try to make him/her jealous... see if she laughs at your witty repartee that kind of thing or something more obvious?

Not wanting you to devulge all your secrets.... just a couple of little hints

[workaholicsanon]

I think I do know if a girl likes me although sometimes I guess I don't admit it. I prefer that I get proof if I can. Such as the person admitting it. I some times manipulate situations to get it in the open. I might not make the first move but I will set it up so that the girl will usually either make the move or it will be quite obvious. It's fun and it works well for me. ESTP's come off as if they have self esteem but I think maybe it is really a front.

Ha well, you are going to have a lot of trouble scoring those INFJ females then if that's how you handle potential love interests. I have been known to make subtle moves, and even did once confess my feelings to a guy (not ESTP), just because of my wish to just be sure that the feelings aren't mutual before dropping the case and moving on, just to do full justice to the feelings. However if it gets to that point, I (and I'm sure many other female INFJs) HIGHLY resent the fact that the guy let it come to that.

There's also the fact that the one time i did confess my feelings, they ended up not being mutual. This was emotionally devastating to me (internally of course) and humiliating such that I swore NEVER to do such a thing again. I kiiind of did it again with a recent love interest (an ESTP this time) who seemed to also be interested (via lots of body language), but i used MUCH more restraint and did not actually completely admit it. I just said I thought he was an intriguing guy and I enjoyed getting to know him. But again, I am extremely resentful of the fact that he let it come to that point.

Every time this happens I am less likely to make a first move in the future. So, beware. I know a bunch of INFJs who will absolutely not make a move.

[Korvyna]

This is exactly like my friend I am amazed she can't see it. To me some guys are practically wearing "I LOVE YOU" t-shirts, there was this one guy that laughed at all her jokes all night, followed her about the bar, smiled at her constantly and when she left shouted "no please don't go" and she STILL couldn't tell!

What if the person couldn't admit it, how would you find out? Try to make him/her jealous... see if she laughs at your witty repartee that kind of thing or something more obvious?

Not wanting you to devulge all your secrets.... just a couple of little hints

I'm curious, is your friend a very modest person? Anytime I get a compliment about anything, my reply is almost always something to the effect of "Oh stop, I'm nothing special." I think internally (sometimes) I know when someone does like me, BUT I don't want to feel conceited by admitting it to my friend, so I play it off as nothing.

Well, every person that couldn't admit it... years later ended up admitting it after it was too late. So, if they won't admit it, I accept that I was wrong (or thought I was) and move on. I've actually talked to friends of guy's I used to be interested in that have said "You know so and so had the biggest crush on you back then...but they didn't think you were interested." Sometimes subtlety is not the answer I guess.

[TreeBob]

Ha well, you are going to have a lot of trouble scoring those INFJ females then if that's how you handle potential love interests. I have been known to make subtle moves, and even did once confess my feelings to a guy (not ESTP), just because of my wish to just be sure that the feelings aren't mutual before dropping the case and moving on, just to do full justice to the feelings. However if it gets to that point, I (and I'm sure many other female INFJs) HIGHLY resent the fact that the guy let it come to that.

There's also the fact that the one time i did confess my feelings, they ended up not being mutual. This was emotionally devastating to me (internally of course) and humiliating such that I swore NEVER to do such a thing again. I kiiind of did it again with a recent love interest (an ESTP this time) who seemed to also be interested (via lots of body language), but i used MUCH more restraint and did not actually completely admit it. I just said I thought he was an intriguing guy and I enjoyed getting to know him. But again, I am extremely resentful of the fact that he let it come to that point.

Every time this happens I am less likely to make a first move in the future. So, beware. I know a bunch of INFJs who will absolutely not make a move.

I am thinking maybe you missed my point. I handle myself quite well and I think I could nab an INFJ I manipulate the situation not people. There is a difference.