[Tater Tot]

Whenever I see something that occurs often in a particular case, I'm going to generalize it. I do it because its easy and I don't get offended or annoyed when people stereotype me. Whenever I, personally, make a generalization, I'm not talking about the "Exceptions." I'm poking fun at the fact that it SEEMS like everyone is like this.

So, yeah, it SEEMS like the F's are sensitive to a lot of things - the word doesn't get around for no reason. As long as someone isn't really being derogatory, such as saying "Ugh you stupid INFP" or something to that affect, I never got why it was such a big deal.

Just throwing my cents in to see if anyone else agrees.

[Adventure]

@tatertawt24
Your example is obvious insult but personally I wouldn't ever get offender by such craptalk. Most F's are very sensitive, yes. It's enought to say "come to the gym with me, you are a bit chubby" to get emo reaction sometimes (women especially).

INFJ's will get offended if you don't accept their help... INFP's will get offended if you don't apreciate their idealistic ideas or poke smallest fun of them if very shy/uncomfortable with themselfs.
Happily when in my prime, my joking arround don't offend anyone, they are too playful for that. But there are times when I'm a bit depressed and people take stuff too personally from me then. shame

[themartyparade]

Happily when in my prime, my joking arround don't offend anyone, they are too playful for that. But there are times when I'm a bit depressed and people take stuff too personally from me then. shame

Yah, when I was younger people would often get offended by what I said even though I was just joking. It kinda bummed me out 'cause I love cracking jokes and poking fun at people (with the best intentions of course ), later realized that I didn't have to change what I was saying but simply, how I was saying it. Hardly anyone gets offended anymore. Score.

[Tater Tot]

I make fun of everything, its good when people get offended so I don't form a doomed friendship. XDD

[laikta]

The question comes up often not because it's a common problem but because it's a trite stereotype. It's like just assuming that all Thinkers are assholes and all Feelers are pussies, people just have preconceived notions they like to push.

Oh we can think of it in a more positive way.
Thinkers are logical and realistic often reality is always harsh (just like our social environment).
Feelers are creative and artistic they create nice things.

[laikta]

I can't speak for everyone, but I really don't care if I look badly. What I am sick of with Fs is that when they feel badly, they look for anyone to blame to feel better. They come on here asking for help when they really want to do is dump their bad feelings on us. We had one young whiny INFP brat come on this forum and basically say her entire life was ruined by bullying ESTPs which included leaders in her church. Every ESTP who read her comments were like "ESTP as church leaders? Are you effing kidding me?"

I actually tried to help this girl at first by telling her that a lot of things she was complaining about could be improved if she had a better attitude. She got all hurt and then another INFP lectured me on being more sensitive and how INFPs needed support when they are feeling down.

Now, Snow Dove, this has nothing to do with you. But when we have another F coming here, and especially another INFP, asking for help and wanting to know the truth about us, we are all like, "Here we go again." Are you really seeking truth and help or do you want to be told something to grab onto so that if it doesn't work out between the two of you, you can say, "All you ESTPs are assholes."

That said, I don't see how it could work between you two. For an INFP and ESTP to work, they would both have to be EXTREMELY mature with their third and fourth functions. Just using myself as an example in comparison to you at your age, I wouldn't have been mature enough/open minded enough to handle a relationship with an INFP, so I doubt (not know just doubt) that another person could be that mature with their third and fourth functions at 22. And your ESTP partner doesn't seem to be terribly mature either.

Let me give you one example of the type of maturity I am talking about, "And ESTP i hear can be people who get what they want no matter what." That is a really immature comment. Do ESTPs get what they want more so than other types? Yes. But do you know how we do so? We work to the bone even doing work we hate, help other people get what they want, and bust through conventional wisdom that is wrong even if it means dealing with a shit storm from people hell bent on maintaining the status quo.

The other day I was talking to an INFP. She was pretty distant until I did her type and within five minutes, she told me that I got her better than almost anyone in her life. I was honest with her and said, "You know I really don't like most INFPs because of how selfish they can be." She admitted to me that when she was young, she was extremely selfish, "but I am not like that now", and I don't think she is. She has learned that to get what she wants she needs to help others; she had developed her Ne, the key to growth for an INFP.

So the comment ESTPs get what they want is pretty offensive to us. Sure, we often get what we want but we don't expect it to be handed to us like other types do.

Can't agree more on this!! Well said. Just because everyone's function are different and you might not like how the others work and then you get offended. It's on you (how you think/perceive/feel/analyse) and sometimes people just assume the other knows how you feel and what you want? Never, normal person aren't psychics. E.g. If you want people to listen, just say it since everyone is different the way how they handle different situations. Some people just have no idea that all the other person want is a pair of listening ears!