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This is a discussion on Paranoid? within the ESTP Forum - The Doers forums, part of the SP's Temperament Forum- The Creators category; Originally Posted by Brian1 I'm fearful of fiscal situations of big deficits, so I'm paranoid when people don't seem to ...

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    ESTP - The Doers

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian1 View Post
    I'm fearful of fiscal situations of big deficits, so I'm paranoid when people don't seem to have my budget as a top priority. I've also been laid off from every job, so even if I have seniority,which I do, at the Union job I have, and I'm told they can't touch me, my experience has always told me, they'll find a way.
    That is not paranoid, Brian. The people relying on the union contract to save them are the ones who are clueless. Contracts can be beaten in a myriad of ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian1 View Post
    I think my paranoia is due to the inability to use my holistic function of my brain. I can only see parts, so I can't really take a leap of faith and trust people.
    You are seeing your realism as a flaw and it is not. A feeler may think he or she is not going to get fired because thinking about it is unpleasant. A N will knock you (and this is really strange I know) because they believe that they have a psychic vision from God that they were meant to have this job. So their arrogance/feeling of destiny prevents the "paranoia".

    Where you truly are paranoid Brian is not reflected in your post. I am guessing it is how you feel about the future. You believe that if you lose your job, your life will get worse, and that is usually not the case. Every time I have been let go from a job it hurt initially but in the long run, it was always for the better. I suspect that you lack faith that if a door is closed, God won't open up a window, and He almost always does.

    ESTPs are the types of laid back doers and producers employers love to hire. It is easy for me to see that with you because I am on the outside looking in, but I have felt many times what I suspect you are feeling now.

    In today's society because of food stamps, Medicaid, and unemployment, you can exist without having a job. Sadly, some unemployed people are better off that those who work for a living.

    A penniless ISFP made quite an impression on me. She stunningly went from job to job complaining about all of them until she found one she loved. The Fs I know will not work a job they do not like. For them, happiness trumps money.

    We probably need to learn from the Fs on this because I know when I worked jobs that I didn't like, I spent more than I made. Suze Orman, the personal finance guru, taught me this. One of the most common causes of excessive spending is low self esteem and with us ESTPs sadly we don't even know when we are suffering from low self-esteem.

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    ESTP - The Doers

    Quote Originally Posted by themartyparade View Post
    -waiting for Fizz's sassy comeback-
    Sorry to disappoint, you'll have to keep on waiting.

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    ESTP - The Doers

    Quote Originally Posted by elvis2010 View Post
    That is not paranoid, Brian. The people relying on the union contract to save them are the ones who are clueless. Contracts can be beaten in a myriad of ways.
    I was always skeptical of joining the union. I was a Johnny-come-lately-to this as I waived my right when I got hired, cause I'm too much of a history buff who knows the days of big labor are long gone. Even now, it's the poor immigrants that inform me on stuff. I take the clout in stride.

    Quote Originally Posted by elvis2010 View Post
    You are seeing your realism as a flaw and it is not. A feeler may think he or she is not going to get fired because thinking about it is unpleasant. A N will knock you (and this is really strange I know) because they believe that they have a psychic vision from God that they were meant to have this job. So their arrogance/feeling of destiny prevents the "paranoia".

    Where you truly are paranoid Brian is not reflected in your post. I am guessing it is how you feel about the future. You believe that if you lose your job, your life will get worse, and that is usually not the case. Every time I have been let go from a job it hurt initially but in the long run, it was always for the better. I suspect that you lack faith that if a door is closed, God won't open up a window, and He almost always does.
    Yes, the future, that's exactly what I'm afraid of, and since ,this is really sensor of me,the things I fear always happened in the past, I get anxiety feelings about the future,because I'm certain it will come around again. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, but it's always,mostly tied,to the amount of income I make. I'm learning that while I'm responsible for my reaction,that my former bank really screwed their customers big time and it's not my fault. The faith part, yes I do lack that. Taking a leap of faith that everything will be alright in the future, has never come easily for me. I've been working on it this past year though, through meditation.I've never meditated before.

    Quote Originally Posted by elvis2010 View Post
    ESTPs are the types of laid back doers and producers employers love to hire. It is easy for me to see that with you because I am on the outside looking in, but I have felt many times what I suspect you are feeling now.

    In today's society because of food stamps, Medicaid, and unemployment, you can exist without having a job. Sadly, some unemployed people are better off that those who work for a living.

    A penniless ISFP made quite an impression on me. She stunningly went from job to job complaining about all of them until she found one she loved. The Fs I know will not work a job they do not like. For them, happiness trumps money.

    We probably need to learn from the Fs on this because I know when I worked jobs that I didn't like, I spent more than I made. Suze Orman, the personal finance guru, taught me this. One of the most common causes of excessive spending is low self esteem and with us ESTPs sadly we don't even know when we are suffering from low self-esteem.
    These things are good to know. Thanks.

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    ESTP - The Doers

    Quote Originally Posted by elvis2010 View Post
    . A N will knock you (and this is really strange I know) because they believe that they have a psychic vision from God that they were meant to have this job. So their arrogance/feeling of destiny prevents the "paranoia".
    I have to disagree with you on this one. I think an N is very likely to consider the possiblity of being fired. Especially an NT, since the are less prone to deny it because the thought is unpleasant as a feeler would do.

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    ESTP - The Doers

    I can be paranoid, but I think anyone can be when you fuck up your sleep cycle (as in, oh hey, I'm not going to sleep for three days). I also have the potential to be paranoid when I'm alone for too long (as in months).

    I think it takes a lot to get me there, so usually no. I'm not. Just have anxiety problems.
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    ESTP - The Doers

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickel View Post
    A couple ESTPs have mentioned this before, and I asked it in a thread once but got no response. So I thought I'd ask:

    ESTPs, are you paranoid? Can you be? About what sort of things?
    I get 'flashes' of paranoia at times - motives of people


 
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