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This is a discussion on being seen as a somewhat "cold" person within the ENTP Forum- The Visionaries forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by bellisaurius I think people who are in the middle phase of getting to know me probably get ...

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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Quote Originally Posted by bellisaurius View Post
    I think people who are in the middle phase of getting to know me probably get that impression.



    Knowing me a little means watching me be nice to people and make jokes. A little more, and then they realize I just treat everyone like that, and that a lot of my opinions on things are more about efficiency and tactical positioning. At the final stage, I think people realize I like everyone to be happy regardless, and the reasoning isn't quite as important as the fact that I actually do more good than talk about it.
    yes. Yes. Yes.
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  2. #12
    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I've been called unemotional.

    It's because we're smart; we see what people are trying to make us feel and we don't allow them to win, so we don't feel it. Sometimes a situation will happen where I feel as if most people would be negatively affected (say a funeral) but almost as if I'm playing a game within myself, I won't let it take control of me.

    I can remember getting reamed out as I stood unaffected while the rest of my group cried afterwards. Later the other group members asked if I had a heart... I said I did, but the person reaming us out is only doing it in order to bring us back up tomorrow as a means to create some sort of emotional investment into the organization.

    He did exactly that the next day

    Sometimes this can get us into trouble though- *thinks about past girlfriends*

    low point of my life- when I told myself to cry to make girlfriend-at-the-time more comfortable....

  3. #13
    Unknown Personality


    Quote Originally Posted by BusinessMan View Post
    I'm a lot colder on the inside than I appear on the outside. On the outside it's a mix of witty jokes, logical discussion and "insane" ramblings. On the inside it's "you could die tomorrow and I wouldn't really care". Maybe not that extreme, but something like that.

    I've been called domineering, narcissistic, sociopathic, asshole, selfish, etc.. but never cold for some reason.
    Out of curiosity, how often do you suspect yourself of sociopathy, to any degree? God knows I look up symptoms every time I really get abnormal. And I think we're not actually narcissistic - all humans are egoists, right? ENTPs are just more acutely aware of how it plays out in their own psyche. Is what I tell myself. Harumph.
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  4. #14
    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Armed Politicker View Post
    Out of curiosity, how often do you suspect yourself of sociopathy, to any degree? God knows I look up symptoms every time I really get abnormal. And I think we're not actually narcissistic - all humans are egoists, right? ENTPs are just more acutely aware of how it plays out in their own psyche. Is what I tell myself. Harumph.
    I actually came to a conclusion about my sociopathy level a couple months ago after about two weeks' obsessing about the topic. If there was a scale between 0-10, where 0 is what's considered a normal person, and 10 is the level where someone could be officially diagnosed with sociopathy, I'd put myself at around 5-6. I have a conscience, no doubt, but after talking to numerous people about their conscience, how often they feel guilty etc, I realized I don't experience guilt nearly as often as other people. To me this is an advantage.

    I know I'm narcissistic, on a subclinical level. But I I am not delusional about myself. I know exactly what my strengths and weaknesses are, and I just am much more open to showing my strengths to other people.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by BusinessMan View Post
    I actually came to a conclusion about my sociopathy level a couple months ago after about two weeks' obsessing about the topic. If there was a scale between 0-10, where 0 is what's considered a normal person, and 10 is the level where someone could be officially diagnosed with sociopathy, I'd put myself at around 5-6. I have a conscience, no doubt, but after talking to numerous people about their conscience, how often they feel guilty etc, I realized I don't experience guilt nearly as often as other people. To me this is an advantage.

    I know I'm narcissistic, on a subclinical level. But I I am not delusional about myself. I know exactly what my strengths and weaknesses are, and I just am much more open to showing my strengths to other people.
    I think your narcissism, and most ENTPs for that matter, is pretty normal. Like Armed Politicker said, we're more aware of it. There are impulse-driven people that are totally narcissistic but have no idea what they're doing. And these people tend to be delusional and way off-base because they don't introspect and take themselves for what they are. They'll even overcompensate haphazardly because they haven't taken a proper measurement of themselves.

    If anyone were to just analyze themselves, they'll see the glaring flaws that match the strengths. We just do that naturally and are more aware of it. Although extreme self-awareness can lead to neurotic behavior.
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    I think(heh), thanks to our Ti, we have an unparalleled ability to see through delusions. The human brain buries facts in emotional abstracts. And the fact is, we survive, and reproduce, and we win, and that's what matters. The infinite complexities of accomplishing this, through instinct and cooperation and mating, must be masked and simplified, or we'd get overwhelmed and depressed. Inward thinkers like us, though, focus at unwinding the skeins and see ourselves for what we are. Which can be shit sometimes, no matter how enlightening.

    The latter might be why ENTPs are so light-hearted outwardly, and absurd and insane and interesting and awesome, to counter the machine of our inside architecture. Hah, quite a bit of pathos there, but this is my theory so far. Hell, works for me.

  7. #17
    INTP - The Thinkers

    APPARENTLY not sharing the last smore with my INFP makes me cruel and heartless
    whatever
    that smore was delicious

  8. #18
    ENTP - The Visionaries


    My friends call me a jerk and an Asshole all the time. I take that as a compliment.

    Then sometimes people call me heartless, merciless, cold and inhuman.
    Oh well. I'm not a sociopath, but I just don't think some matters should be taken emotionally. Sometimes you have to be cold and seem heartless to get thing done. That's my opinion.

  9. #19
    ENTP - The Visionaries

    It is probably worse being a woman, since they are supposed to be more "sociable" and "feely".

    Professionals actually believed me to be ENFP until I had to step in on a board meeting and confront my old friend in front of everybody, on a specific issue of justice and rationality. (I also did tests later to assert my ENTP-type). I am quite "nice" and at least luke warm, although a bit distanced. But I have noticed that people are surprised/shocked when I actually "step in" in matters, not caring about harmony etc. My Te is also very, very high. Thus I get along well with traditional xxTJs.... They do not get me and Ne, but I "get " them.

    About Ti, it depends on the person. Bad/odd Ti model= a person with bad/odd judgement.

    Heck, just ignore it and live. If it bothers you, then smile more towards people and try to listen more BEFORE giving solutions... Should do the trick!
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I think I can seem somewhat cool to those who know me best, 'cause most people would see this energetic hyperactive enthusiastic person.


 
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