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This is a discussion on Which is giving you more trouble: work boredom or office politics? within the ENTP Forum- The Visionaries forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; It's really not the kind of thread topic I want to create. Threads about ENTP having problems in a working ...

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Which is giving you more trouble: work boredom or office politics?

    It's really not the kind of thread topic I want to create. Threads about ENTP having problems in a working environment have been done to death. Its so repetitive that it's already a cliche. And besides, I don't really want to highlight one of the least defined ENTP attribute--work ethics.

    Anyway, it's a well known fact that ENTPs do easily get bored, moving from one interest to the other.
    I just have a different take on that. Actually, if I get bored with work, it sorta implies that I'm overqualified for it and that would mean there's a room for me to pursue some of my interests during free time (assuming that my work has ample free time).

    I had a brief working experience in a call center. I live in the Philippines (hence my work starts at a night shift to align our time zone with the US).

    A call center environment is...to sum it briefly, is a full representation of what is bad in a US corporate environment. Conditions may vary somewhere else of course, but unless I get out of this industry, this is still my general idea.

    I've sorta wondered if ENTPs here worry about more about boredom, than let's say...office politics with ridiculous red tape.

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    I do challenge some of the perceive ENTP stereotypes. Given the right environment, we do actually WORK BETTER. In a night shift, it's hard to be late. No pressure to wake up early. Our Ne/Fe axis intuitively gives us more customer empathy than anyone else, and modesty aside, we do communicate more effectively because of our extroversion.

    It's just that often times, we're working on a restrictive system that hinders the workarounds that our Ne makes.



    I've been working on an account that has a merged billing/sales. The logical side of me can't comprehend the structure of almost forcing to sell something to a customer that had troubles with her bills--it's b*llsh*t to the nth degree, but that's what the system is, and I've been reprimanded so many times for not having that push to do more sales on a client base that I "intuitively" know that cannot pay. Of course, corporate logic puts bottom line above everything else, but this is just way too silly.

    I always had that intent on helping, on arriving on time, efficiently, etc., but I guess every metric got overlooked unless I'm bringing the money in, even if I end up getting so many customers mad in the process.

    Of course, this is a very idealistic way of thinking on my end, but knowing me personally, I seriously doubt if I can compromise to the extend people demand.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I worry more about politics. I'm rarely ever bored because I have such a vivid and active imagination. When I was a teenager working at McDonald's I was of course bored, but the fact that I only had to use a small percentage of my brain for work meant I was free to keep the rest of my head in the clouds. Right now I'm a teacher and I'm at a private school with very little red tape and politics, so I'm free to make my work environment as boring or interesting as I want depending on how I choose to run my class. I can change it up every day or last minute or whatever.In my summer job which I'll be starting again in a few weeks, I'm constantly busy and so I'm very rarely bored, but I get really annoyed with the politics. I'm lower management, so dealing with the upper management gets really annoying. I can do my job just fine, but when they change the rules constantly or make rules that make no sense or that I even find counterproductive, there's trouble. I'll usually pay them lip service, but I won't follow the new procedures and then pretend like I forgot or don't understand the new things-- which is probably why up until recently they seemed to think I was a complete idiot... But whatever. I love the job, I just don't love the management.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Depends on the job surely. I have a very interesting job and i like the work I do, it gives me endless learning opportunities. But I have workd for the same very sick organisation for 25 years. The politics are awful.

    Boredom to an extent is inevitable whatever you do, mind you. Find that I continually reinvent myself or take on new stuff, but still I would like to take a huge leap sideways and do something different altogether.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutant Messiah View Post
    Of course, this is a very idealistic way of thinking on my end, but knowing me personally, I seriously doubt if I can compromise to the extend people demand.
    I can relate to you, it straight pisses me off when I'm expected to forgo my own principles just to make another sale.

    (Like.. why the hell would I inflate your numbers just so you can look good to your supervisors? I'm about to go tell them how much you suck.. and it's legitimate sucking.)

    For the time being, boredom doesn't hit me that hard, the mundane tasks I'm required to do can be done on auto-pilot and require little conscious attention. The company politics aren't that much to deal with either (from the position I'm in), but if I have to choose between the two, boredom usually affects me more.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    A bit of both actually.
    I'm in the process of starting my own company so I'm trying to at least avoid the office politics.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by blackpeppergeneral View Post
    A bit of both actually.
    I'm in the process of starting my own company so I'm trying to at least avoid the office politics.
    Lol I can see it now: "That bitch blackpeppergeneral has been on my ass about the TPS reports I did all day! I didn't do anything wrong, and she still bitches me out! I can't win!"
    blackpeppergeneral thanked this post.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Good sir, MegaTuxRacer

    It seems that you know me rather well.
    Lol.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by blackpeppergeneral View Post
    Good sir, MegaTuxRacer

    It seems that you know me rather well.
    Lol.
    Omg could it be another perfectionist ENTP?

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by MegaTuxRacer View Post
    Omg could it be another perfectionist ENTP?
    So it would seem.
    Though I'm a bit lenient on the employees than myself.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by blackpeppergeneral View Post
    So it would seem.
    Though I'm a bit lenient on the employees than myself.
    Well I have never been in a supervisory role, but yeah I am definitely more forgiving of others.


 
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