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This is a discussion on Insight on behavior of ENTP ex boyfriend/first love- much appreciated! within the ENTP Forum- The Visionaries forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; my ENTP exboyfriend/first love recently contacted me after what feels like eons. We were together officially for two years. He ...

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    INFP - The Idealists

    Insight on behavior of ENTP ex boyfriend/first love- much appreciated!

    my ENTP exboyfriend/first love recently contacted me after what feels like eons.

    We were together officially for two years. He was attracted to me from the start and I saw him as a best friend who after a romantic courtship, became my first love. We had exceptional chemistry in every facet of the relationship - intellectual, emotional, physical. We spent every day at school and afternoon together and after saying goodbye, could not wait to reconvene in our conversations on the phone at night. Our dynamic was very fun, spontaneous, loving and we could talk for hours - whether about our dreams for the future - so full of potential - or simply playful verbal sparring about nothing in particular. We learned there was nothing like being in love with your best friend. He showered me with romantic gestures that can only be rivaled by great poets like Pablo Neruda. The honeymoon period soon ended when the tumultuous fights began. The demands of university set in and the stress of not being able to balance a healthy relationship with school resulted in a mutual breakup - although more his decision than mine. He told me the never ending fights were what ultimately broke his heart.



    In the years immediately following the break up, our close friendship still resembled a romantic relationship. In fact, most people still considered us a couple, and from most angles, we still acted like we were together. I insisted that we not become friends with benefits, thus the intimacy we shared was more emotional than physical. We still celebrated major landmarks together and were each other's valentine's for many years. Neither of us entered serious relationships with other people, so I was naively content with this arrangement until I realized that I was cheating myself of true commitment and a future that I deserve. I spoke to him about possibly getting back together many times but he saw nothing wrong with the current situation and while neither negating the possibility of romance in the future, insisted that the present was not a good time to get back together. I waited patiently (read: fooled myself into waiting) for three years until I finally could not handle the emotional manipulation anymore. He wanted my company but could not give me the commitment I wanted. I felt repeatedly heartbroken and by this point my self esteem was reduced to nil. In one of the most heartbreaking and angry fights we'd ever had, I finally decided to pick up what was left of my integrity and told him I had had enough. He hoped we could be best friends in the future but I could make no such promises.

    Since moving on, I have had 1 serious relationship. My ex and I had a two hour phone conversation after 8 months of no communication (2 months into my new relationship). I called him after finding out that for my birthday party, my ex had insisted on paying for bottle service for the entire group so I called him to thank him for his generosity. The tempo of the conversation flowed seamlessly, and the chemistry was palpable. He conveyed to me that the past 8 months had been extremely difficult, that he missed me, that he still has a special place for me in his heart, and he hopes I am happy. He also admitted to not being able to find another girl with whom he shared the same level of intensity and chemistry. I spoke very little about my new relationship, as I wanted to focus on preserving a positive remnant of our past (considering that we had ended previously on such horrid terms). We called this our inflection point - that perhaps we have finally learned how to be friends again - made promises to keep in touch, but communication remained sparse. He often contacted me to hang out with a bigger group but i often opted out bc I was in grad school and was a long drive away.

    Another year goes by and we no longer communicate. At an annual camping trip with friends, he and I were both present and by this point, familiar strangers. Also, I had broken up with my third boyfriend and was newly single. The dynamic of my ex and I was the strangest thing I had ever experienced. I caught him staring at me often, yet there was a thick, almost hostile tension between us. The few times we spoke directly to one another, we were cordial with one another but conversation remained superficial. After he became really drunk, he told mutual friends that he wanted to spend more time with me and wanted to put his sleeping bag next to mine. I did not reciprocate in any flirtation because I felt too cautious to step into one of his manipulations.

    I texted him happy new year to which he replied. A month later, he called me randomly to catch up. We spoke for about twenty minutes. the conversation was, again quite superficial. we were both nervous and a bit awkward.

    one last bit worth noting is he hasn't been in a relationship since ours.

    To all the ENTPs reading this, can you please clue me in to some insight on what is going on with my ENTP ex? what does it appear he wants? also aren't ENTPs known for keeping doors that have been previously shut, tightly sealed? are his actions motivated by a bruised ego? can I trust that anything is sincere or is this all a game or some sort of affirmation seeking behavior? I am asking because a part of me still has deep feelings for him and am nervous about opening myself up again to potentially get hurt once again. I am hopeful that ideally we can become close friends again. Thanks in advance for any and all input!

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    INFP - The Idealists

    anxiously waiting for replies..*nudge nudge* :)

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    It might just be me, but I can't see where any doors were shut.He may have called it off, but it doesn;t sound like he burned any bridges. Besides, two years of churning butter solo can give any man cravings.

    It sounds like he wouldn't turn you down if you offered, but he's not making the first move; maybe trying to set you up to do it, but hard to say.

    I'm guessing you guys started dating in your early twenties, and are both a little past 25. ENTPs do mature, and neither of you are exactly the same person, so he may not be the exact same guy you knew. Depends on whether you still respect each other, which seems to be the case (one of you'd be feeling some loathing, which doesn't seem to be happening.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Well I can't speak for him ... I can only speak for me. I have NEVER rekindled a relationship. actually I'm really only friends with 1 or 2 of my ex's (who were the ones I most connected with). I have, however "hooked up" with a few ex's in the past. In retrospect I'd say it's mostly just to feel like we used to feel for a night ... or something like that. In the end I find that whatever problems we had before were, without a shadow of a doubt, going to resurface if we started things back up again.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    We ENTPs are often indecisive, especially early in life. He may have not wanted to deal with all the baggage that comes with a post-honeymoon relationship and yet still have genuine feelings for you. If he still keeps the door open it sounds like he has not lost interest on some level. If he is not bored of you, that says something! (then again, you are an INFP, so of course he is not bored of you)

    Life and relationships can be complicated. Maybe you should talk to him about where he's at and what he wants. He might need some prodding to open up beyond the superficial, but I think you will be happy to have everything out in the open.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    wow- thank you all for the prompt input! I appreciate the non-sugar coated honesty, which is in fact what I need to hear. also as an aside, I can't help but notice the subtle charm and confidence that ENTPs exude; it's obvious I still have a soft spot for ya'll.

    I agree with many of the above statements. we have undeniably changed from the two people in the relationship and while rekindling a romance seems unlikely right now, it's not inconceivable IMHO. Primarily, I am curious whether we are still compatible, as I believe the respect is still present. what is the best means to rekindle a friendship with an ENTP? and how would one prod beyond the superficial in our case? he is so awfully private by nature and rarely opens up about his personal life. once again, thanks for your two cents :)

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I'm going to bed now, but you'll get more cents from me tomo while I'm at work goofing off.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by oliveranger View Post
    wow- thank you all for the prompt input! I appreciate the non-sugar coated honesty, which is in fact what I need to hear. also as an aside, I can't help but notice the subtle charm and confidence that ENTPs exude; it's obvious I still have a soft spot for ya'll.

    I agree with many of the above statements. we have undeniably changed from the two people in the relationship and while rekindling a romance seems unlikely right now, it's not inconceivable. Primarily, I am curious whether we are still compatible, as I believe the respect is still present. what is the best means to rekindle a friendship with an ENTP? and how would one prod beyond the superficial in our case? he is so awfully private by nature and rarely opens up about his personal life. once again, thanks for your two cents :)
    You won't know about compatibility till you go out a few times, but it sounds like you're curious enough, and it's not like you're wrecking an existing relationship to see. In all honesty, if you offered sex right now, do you think he would turn you down? Of course not, I'm sure that's not what you're probably after, but I just wanted to remind you of how us men think, entp or not.

    What you want to know is whether he wants a relationship, and whether it will work for you. The only way you get to find that out is to let it happen. I'd be a fan of trying to set him up to make the first move, but as you point out, there's a lot of baggage in the way of that as you guys are being formal. Maybe go out for some coffee in the afternoon under the pretense of catching up, let time go by, and end up getting some drinks. If there's chemistry, it should show up, and you can decided how you want it to proceed. If not, then as my two kid sisters say "whatevah". If there is, then it's your call. Worse case scenario, you repeatthe last time with enough wisdom to recognize it early.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I seeee...
    Lust. Lotsa lust.
    Don't expect much.
    Sounds like the guy can't kick-start things much, sounds embarrassingly familiar.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries


    Insight on behavior of ENTP ex boyfriend/first love- much appreciated!

    We really can’t read his mind.

    At that age (18-25), I remember girls pursuing me very aggressively for relationship and marriage. I think girls mature sooner, so they were ready to start a family, but I was just a broke student and didn’t feel ready to settle down. So I either had to let them go, or they got tired of waiting for me. Maybe you got tried of waiting for him and the fights were just the result of your frustration?
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