Yeah lyrics are pretty neat.
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Yeah lyrics are pretty neat.
I swing both ways on this. I can love the way a song sounds, but if I hate the lyrics (usually because it's too co-dependent), then I'll start gradually hating the song. The opposite is the same. I can not particularly like a song, but once I know the lyrics, I might start loving it...and in some cases, there are songs I've known (and liked) for a long time, but one day, the lyrics suddenly make sense and it switches from like to love. I consider myself to generally be a lyrics person, but there are a number of instrumental songs that I love. See: anything Apocalyptica
Example of a song I liked and then hated because of the lyrics: The Script - Break even (What am I gonna do when the best part of me was always you)...Are you kidding me? That pisses me off. Ruins the song. IMO, the entire song is about a guy who treated his gf like shit and is now sad that she's happy with someone who doesn't treat her like shit. Get over it. But, I loved the song till I knew what it was about.
Example of a song I liked, but didn't love till I understood it: Father of Mine by Everclear. I have a really great dad, so I didn't understand it (it came out when I was about 15-16). I liked it, but I didn't understand. When I went to college and finally met people who didn't grow up like I did, I began to really understand the lyrics. It's a pretty powerful song. Makes me really happy to have the family I have...even if we are pleasantly dysfunctional. :-) Another one is Glory Box by Portishead. I was way too young to understand all of it's meaning when it came out ('94 or '95) and I certainly wasn't prepared for it to be a song that pretty much explains my romantic existence. But it is. And I'm not sure I was old enough to understand that until recently.
My hearing could be better, so it's easier to lose myself in the sound. The cocteau twins are one of my favorite bands because of this.
However, I really like multiple layers of meaning, where the sound says one thing, but the lyrics another. One of the first things I ever did on the net was look up the lyrics to my favorite band, Lush (who I appreciated in the former way), and man, that was mindblowing.
This is all a bit jumbled, but my point is that people respond to classical music because of how much they've been exposed to it. Everyone has a memory involving classical music. If other songs had the history and relentless saturation, we'd most likely have a similar response.
Personally there is no classical that moves me as much as some of the meanings with music, although I am a sucker for the requiem for a dream soundtrack but again there is meaning stapled to it from the rather delightful film ;)
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