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    As an ENTP have you ever felt that people really didn't like you? ENTP social life

    I know that ENTPs are supposed to have the most charisma of all the MBTI types according to every copy-and-paste MBTI site on the interweb, but as an ENTP I have always been very lonely. I live in a part of the country where independence is considered wrong, and if I had to guess the people around me are all SJ or SP types(jocks). Now that I am in college, attending a large university, and I spend most of my time alone (on sites like these, and porn). I have been called a narcissist, and an a** hole more often than I have been called a friend. I am at times jealous of my popular ENFP brother(he gets laid, for free, unlike me and my "business" trips to Nevada). I seem to always have a hundred different causal friends, but my close friends hate me. To give you context as to how I behave on a daily bases, think of Chandler the friends character, mostly because I too make sarcastic comments constantly(and watch friends reruns at 3 a.m, sleep is overrated). On another unrelated note, have you noticed most people don't seem to get your sense of humor(An ENTP trait, or my curse)? I make jokes in situations in which everyone is panicking, like "oh s*it there's a tornado coming, get in the basement" while me and my dad stand on the porch making jokes like "well, so much for the landscaping we did last weekend"(true story). It seems like people find my inability to take anything serious annoying(I am a computer engineering student, I preemptively apologies for Windows 2018 in advance, I'ma botch dat thang". Well I have lost my main train of thought, input anyone?

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    People tend to either love me or dislike me (though, if I spend some time one-on-one with almost anyone, they almost universally love me). This probably has more to do with being an Sx-dom than it does with being an ENTP.
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    I used to have that problem but then I realized it was me and people want to hear things that make them good. I think being yourself overwhelms them. I too make jokes that are not PC, and I ask questions that make me seem heartless. So if you want to have social life then them feed all that crap of oh I understand or its going to be okay. I may not have an ENFP personality but I can mimic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eric2626 View Post
    I know that ENTPs are supposed to have the most charisma of all the MBTI types according to every copy-and-paste MBTI site on the interweb, but as an ENTP I have always been very lonely. I live in a part of the country where independence is considered wrong, and if I had to guess the people around me are all SJ or SP types(jocks). Now that I am in college, attending a large university, and I spend most of my time alone (on sites like these, and porn). I have been called a narcissist, and an a** hole more often than I have been called a friend. I am at times jealous of my popular ENFP brother(he gets laid, for free, unlike me and my "business" trips to Nevada). I seem to always have a hundred different causal friends, but my close friends hate me. To give you context as to how I behave on a daily bases, think of Chandler the friends character, mostly because I too make sarcastic comments constantly(and watch friends reruns at 3 a.m, sleep is overrated). On another unrelated note, have you noticed most people don't seem to get your sense of humor(An ENTP trait, or my curse)? I make jokes in situations in which everyone is panicking, like "oh s*it there's a tornado coming, get in the basement" while me and my dad stand on the porch making jokes like "well, so much for the landscaping we did last weekend"(true story). It seems like people find my inability to take anything serious annoying(I am a computer engineering student, I preemptively apologies for Windows 2018 in advance, I'ma botch dat thang". Well I have lost my main train of thought, input anyone?
    so you're saying copy paste descriptions of ENTP that circulate without being verified... on the internet... that's not something to listen to! read Jung and stay to his main ideas. I am ENTP as well and I am not the town's Party Jesus or anything like outgoing. I prefer to stay indoors or on the internet chatting with people than go have SJ and SP tell me how to behave, what is appropriate, what's the fashion, what to believe in. the outside world is a bunch of that crap where you gotta fit in preferably by finding similar people, and they do exist! whether you find them online of through relentless social interaction, it don't matter. don't let them diss you because they can't take your stupid jokes, move on, find other friends! your joke with the storm is actually good, I have things like that with my dad too (he's ENTP)
    but you gotta be more serious though, if it concerns you this much. a crazy untamed Ne is a tornado in itself so you gotta temper it with some commitment to work and find aspects of it that are enjoyable - I too struggle with that at work, I feel like joking and being silly all the time since the SJ and SP colleagues bore me to death with their mundane preoccupations and paperwork! gaaaahhhh! so I resort to internet and artistic circles and so far it's going alrirght. also me figures there are ways to have fun with them S types if you use your Fe more, as in trying to relate emotionally, which is nice.
    hope to have been of any help, windows 2018 appology accepted (haha, good one that!)
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    ^99.9% this..

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    Yes. We have the greatest charisma and are thus the most lonely.

    Isn't irony delicious?

    A lot of it is self-sabotage. We draw people to us, but then need to withdraw from them because we can't stand that much intimacy. We need alone time. So we pull back--sometimes using sarcasm and cynicism--to tell people to stay away. They take this as flakiness or cruelty.

    Time tends to cure this. I don't know how old you are, but most of us figure it out by our early 40's or so.
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    I've found that I have about a yearly cycle of waxing and waning in terms of people liking me. It's really uncanny. I've attributed it to my "personality volume".

    When I sense that I'm bugging people,I cut the jokes and the enthusiasm down a notch or five, and things go back to normal.

    I don;t know if what entp's have is charisma, as much as we engender a sort of good will because the ego space we seek usually isn't the type other people are looking for making it easy for us to live around big egos. We tend to not to be judgmental in a negative way because our filters convert most things to "interesting". Finally, we're playful, so people tend to attribute good motives to our many, many indiscretions.
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    A lot. My best friend has love/hate relationship with me. I can be too straightforward and cynic.
    When i was at uni i got like loads of attention and it was weird. People seemed to like me o_O
    I usually have small group (4-5) of real friends.
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    Like Bellisaurius, I try to notice my intensity level. If I care about the person or group, I will fine-tune my intensity & sarcasm even more. As others have said, we can also fake ENFP (at least I can pretty easily) long enough to put people at ease and make them feel good. Usually I'm busy making things interesting for myself, but some people just like to feel good.

    Yes, age and maturity really helps...damn I was so obnoxious when I was younger.

    I went back and forth between being extremely popular and the group pariah LOL, depending on where I was.
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    I've never had this problem, although I used to think people didn't like me in middle school/early high school. I was just socially anxious and because I gave off the impression that I didn't want to talk to people (I was too scared to), people didn't want to talk to me. Once I realized this I fixed it. It just took a bit of practice.

    If people are calling you an asshole and a pessimist, work out why and stop being an asshole and a pessimist. If people don't like you there's always a reason. You're probably insulting people with your sarcasm and inappropriate jokes. If people don't like you due to sexism, racism or homophobia, I think you have a right to complain. But otherwise, if people don't like you it's probably because you're not being a very good friend, or the only people you're trying to make friends with are assholes themselves.

    Make a change.
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