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This is a discussion on ENTP's Who Went And Finished College... within the ENTP Forum- The Visionaries forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by mkeath In the States, we refer to college as anything post-secondary that isn't a trade school. Right! ...
Damn guys you have the luck to change your career!, the only advice that i have, is choose the "most complex career and have passion on it, choose what you know that you would love" and choose carefully (dont make my mistake), i choosed filmmaking (sounds fun huh?) but now im really fucked up i hate it, its boring, all its about egos (damn artists) youre very dependeable of others, every decition in a project is an eternal debate (a lot of subjectivism), also egos egos egos everywhere... a lot of work, doesnt pay well, youre in the last position for years... youtube and the internet will destroy your job...
Choose well your career my fellas, and remember that sometimes your dream its a thing (in reality) that you didint even dream in the worst of your nightmares.
So in conclusion analyze very well your future choice.
I'm a second year/ sophomore in college right now, studying Economics or Computer Science (or both!). What's mostly been keeping me sane has been working outside of class. I'm doing some fun coding on a climate change policy project, and maintaining a computer lab as well, and those are definitely the things I get excited about.
I'm about 2 weeks away from completing a solid year as an auditor for a small public accounting firm. I was probably my most dedicated to the job at the 7 month marker and broke down at the 11 month marker and lost a lot of passion for the job. My review didn't go over well at all but that's also my fault: I didn't challenge management's perceptions of me during this process. fuck...I just realized something.
As an entp, i guess we naturally look for evaluations of ourselves and our performance from others (instead of from within). I guess it'd probably be a good idea to take people's evaluations and perceptions of you and your abilities with a grain of salt.
As for finding a major, go to glassdoor.com and look at salaries and reviews for various professions/companies/industries then select a major that will get you into that profession and execute.
Truthfully, the "fluff" classes ended up being some of my favorites. My freshman and sophomore year I blew a lot of stuff off, but my junior and senior year I went after everything with a vengeance. I decided that I loved learning and I immersed myself in every class I took and it was awesome. It's what you make of it.
Yeah, I followed with the peeps who CLEP'd all the nonsense except the four you can't at my school, which I'm taking at Honors level. Oh and the three theology courses. Gag me.
I'm a Comp Sci Ed and Spanish Ed major. For me, and it sounds like a couple others, the key has been relationships with my profs and impressing as many people as I can. I've always been a teacher's pet, in a sincere way, because it pays off personally and professionally for people above you to love you. Case in point, I work in the president's office at a major private school, have a full ride scholarship and can get extensions on any assignment or curves on any grade I like. If someone says a prof only gives 2 A's a semester, I'll get one of them, simply because it impresses the prof.
Second motivation? Being the cute, fashionable genius of a class of CS jerks. Good times. ^.^
Well, I'm still kinda in college (dang expenses), and luckily figured out what I wanted to do before I transferred into a university. (but transferred schools twice...) and also have a hard time with the "fluff" classes, because I took one, and kinda forgot about it, so will have to take it again, ha ha. I have kept the one major, have gotten through my basics fine, and tested out of the maths. :P
I'll have my BA/MA in 2 years as soon as I get moola to get back to school.
Go for an integrated Liberal Arts program at somewhere with a reputation for rigour. You'll be surprised.
well, i'm no ENTP, but i'm equally lost as of now....
how i see it, i have no idea what i really want to do, but i do know that i'll be going for at least a masters... so, at least 4 more years after i finish an associates + the amount of time spent just living and deciding = longer than i'd like.
i don't believe in just jumping into a major like some in my family have been "counseling" me to do--i'd rather have time to explore what it is that i'll be doing, from the classes that i'll be taking, to what actual job can be had, to how the every day-to-day experience of the job will be, and then deciding....
but, to do that i'll have to have time, and a marginally stress-free life--what's stress free you ask (yes--you did!), for me? having a secure here-in-the-now frame of mind... having a job where i can easily support myself; that suits my introverted nature; that stimulates me mentally (as much as can be gotten from a "stepping-stone job"). if i have that, then i can live, and sample classes at my leisure while researching fields of interest.
right now, i wait tables... it's a f-ing terrible job for INFJ's, and just adds to the amount of time i need outside work, friends, family, school--which i don't really have, and this becomes a terrible mindset in which to make decisions... so, i'm going to get a two-year CLT (clinical lab technician) degree where i'll be analyzing people's bodily fluids under a microscope and figuring out what's wrong with them, making much more money that i do now, a much less stressful (subjective) environment...
so, what's the point of this post?--how is it relevant to the original topic?--how is this not another INFJ seeing a post and saying, "hey, that's similar to this--DERAIL" (or maybe that's just my unique little "snag")?
in my opinion, it's not about deciding right now. this idea that we're all supposed to "just know" what we will become and or like at such a young age when we haven't developed/realized what "we are" is utterly fucking ridiculous. i'd say, if you asked (:P), that one should approach life at his/her own pace, with her/his own approach, and to slowly figure it out while learning about oneself and one's own take on life... now, how to go about that... i don't know!!!! :P... i think that's part of it, is the "figuring out".
anyhow, good luck my zany-half-brethren, in your attempt at life. :P (bows and self-importantly and then trips while exiting the stage).
I'm an ENFP who has a lot of ENTP traits.
I'm finishing my final semester in college. Took four years only because I packed in two separate degrees, a minor, and study abroad. I would've added a third major and stayed an extra year, but my loans don't last that long.
I only failed one course during my time in school, and that was because I chose to commit myself [foolishly] to an outside project I thought would pay off more career-wise. As @bigtex1989 said, once you fail a course, you take classes a lot more seriously. There's a LOT of money on the line.
I never switched either of my two majors during my four years. I came in knowing what I wanted and how I was going to get it. College for me was about connections. It helped me meet the people who had the practical experience in my fields of interest.
I also rarely skipped class. I found that class was a great time to meet my friends and get socializing done. I also enjoyed challenging teachers on their knowledge of the subject. Class, for me, was a potential testing ground for my own wit.
That doesn't mean I didn't have a variety of interest in other subjects. I just found that I could always take an elective course in them for kicks. There's a big difference between liking something and liking it enough to take 40+ credits and three years of classes in it.