Artemis over Athena.
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This is a discussion on Famous FEMALE ENTPs (or fictional characters) within the ENTP Forum- The Visionaries forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Artemis over Athena....
Artemis over Athena.
A poem of Callimachus to the goddess "who amuses herself on mountains with archery" imagines some charming vignettes: according to Callimachus, at three years old, Artemis, while sitting on the knee of her father, Zeus, asked him to grant her six wishes: to remain always a virgin; to have many names to set her apart from her brother Apollo; to be the Phaesporia or Light Bringer; to have a bow and arrow and a knee-length tunic so that she could hunt; to have sixty "daughters of Okeanos", all nine years of age, to be her choir; and for twenty Amnisides Nymphs as handmaidens to watch her dogs and bow while she rested. She wished for no city dedicated to her, but to rule the mountains, and for the ability to help women in the pains of childbirth.
Yeah, that's very ENTPesque
Though Athena was a goddess of war strategy, she disliked fighting without a purpose and preferred using wisdom to settle predicaments. The goddess would only encourage fighting if it was for a reasonable cause or to solve conflict.
Athena appears in disguise to Odysseus upon his arrival, initially lying and telling him that Penelope, his wife, has remarried and that he is believed to be dead; but Odysseus lies back to her, employing skillful prevarications to protect himself. Impressed by his resolve and shrewdness, she reveals herself and tells him what he needs to know in order to win back his kingdom. She disguises him as an elderly man or beggar so that he cannot be noticed by the suitors or Penelope, and helps him to defeat the suitors. She also plays a role in ending the resultant feud against the suitors' relatives, although she seems strange to readers. She instructs Laertes to throw his spear and to kill the father of Antinous, Eupeithes. But she must have forgotten her task of bringing peace to Ithaca and wiping the thought of slaughter from the suitors' families, because she suddenly told them to stop fighting.
Often Pallas is a nymph, daughter of Triton (a sea god) and childhood friend of Athena. In every case, Athena kills Pallas, accidentally, and thereby gains the name for herself. In one telling, they used to practice the arts of war together until one day they had a falling out. As Pallas was about to strike Athena, Zeus intervened. As Pallas was stunned by Zeus, Athena took advantage and wounded and killed her. After everything was over, Athena was distraught over what she had done, and in her grief, she took the name Pallas for herself.
Athena never had a consort or lover and thus, also was known as Athena Parthenos, "Virgin Athena". Her most famous temple, the Parthenon, on the Acropolis in Athens takes its name from this title. It was not merely an observation of her virginity, but a recognition of her role as enforcer of rules of sexual modesty and ritual mystery.
In a late myth, Medusa, unlike her two sister-Gorgons, came to be thought of by the Classical Greeks during the fifth century as mortal and extremely beautiful, but she lay with Poseidon in the temple of Athena and Hephasteus. Upon discovering the desecration of her temple, Athena changed Medusa's form to match that of her sister Gorgons as punishment. Medusa's hair turned into snakes, her lower body was transformed also, and meeting her gaze would turn any living creature to stone.
In one version of the Tiresias myth, Tiresias stumbled upon Athena bathing, and she blinded him because she was naked.To compensate him for his loss, she sent serpents to lick his ears, which gave him the gift of prophecy.
Athena wove the scene of her victory over Poseidon that had inspired her patronage of Athens. According to Ovid's Latin narrative, Arachne's tapestry featured twenty-one episodes of the infidelity of the deities, including Zeus being unfaithful with Leda, with Europa, and with Danaë. Athena admitted that Arachne's work was flawless, but was outraged at Arachne's disrespectful choice of subjects that displayed the failings and transgressions of the deities. Finally, losing her temper, Athena destroyed Arachne's tapestry and loom, striking it with her shuttle. Athena then struck Arachne with her staff, which changed her into a spider. In some versions, the destruction of her loom leads Arachne to hang herself in despair; Athena takes pity on her, and transforms her into a spider.
Yeah, maybe Athena is more an INTJ?
Cool thread. Not that I have anything to contribute.
Maybe, uh... Mila Kunis? Mila Kunis in Black Swan?
Proof 1 : I am an ENTP and I dislike her very much
Proof 2 : She does silly things before her concerts like taking the hand of her musicians and asking/praying positive energy to help her. Sounds NF to me. She says other silly things in interviews. Like one who shows her getting mad because her son lost his favorite toy. And she starts jumping everywhere like a kid when he founds it again. Too irrationnal for a self-contained ENTP.
Proof 3 : her lyrics are far to mushy for an ENTP
I think she's an ENFx.
Lots of ENTP-ish female characters in the CSI, NCIS or whatever crime tech series you like.... I believe that it is quite hard to portrait a healthy ENTP, regardless of gender. This is because we are so "fluid" and switch between modes. That would give a schizoid character that would seem unreal. Remember that the dream-factories never deal with what is real, only with what may PASS FOR REAL. And our face-changing type would seem mad and unbelievable on screen.
Most characters in scripts are charicatures, or stereotypes. As someone said, they portrait different FUNCTIONS in different scenes. So, typing ENTPs in filmsor even edited documentaries is hard. And as that is what we can go by, well.... not many ENTPs. Especially not female since they are sort of a cross between female-male and thus become blurred characters (that the masses would not easily understand or "get").
Jaye Tyler on Wonderfalls? I miss that show.
Here's an interesting one: Katy, at the beginning of What Katy did:
...and of course the main thrust of this Victorian era book is how a terrible life event crushes this poor girl into an ISFJ....and how desirable that is.Happily, her head was so full of other things, of plans and schemes and fancies of all sorts, that she didn't often take time to remember how tall she was. She was a dear, loving child, for all her careless habits, and made bushels of good resolutions every week of her life, only unluckily she never kept any of them. She had fits of responsibility about the other children, and longed to set them a good example, but when the chance came, she generally forgot to do so. Katy's days flew like the wind; for when she wasn't studying lessons, or sewing and darning with Aunt Izzie, which she hated extremely, there were always so many delightful schemes rioting in her brains, that all she wished for was ten pairs of hands to carry them out.
I really liked PopCo. But have a soft spot for the end of Mr. Y as part of it is set in my home town, where the author used to live.
I reckon any ENTP will like her books, they are bursting with Ne.