[bluenlgy]

Where are you getting your info from? can you provide a link(s)?

Beebe model:

Understanding the Archetypes involving the eight functions of type (Beebe model)



Sorry guys if by just reading the description of the process of that shadow function you actually started to see certain horrifying images which reminded you of that special episode in your childhood which might have scarred you for life. But if this indeed happened it should be good news for you, because it meant you really are an ENTP instead of some ENTP wannabe.

Back in college there were a few occasions where I suddenly became furious towards my roommates and threatened them with all kind of evil things just because they said certain words or behaved in a certain way which made me feel like I was reliving my crazy memories again. Every time I would feel bad and apologize to them afterwards, but what I was never able to figure out was why I was so easily provoked by some small and insignificant stuff.

Se is actually a very powerful function which can in a large measure determine who you are and the path you take later in life. The only way to own it, according to Jung, is to fully experience the emotions associated with the bad memories. Ignore it or, more stupidly, suppress it is the best way to ensure those painful experiences will haunt you for life.

Jung also said Ne feels just like Se, both of them are a process of establishing relations with objects by sensation. The only difference is Se pays close attention while Ne mainly looks for patterns. Ne users like ENTP or ENFP can get a glimpse into the lives of Se users like ESTP or ESFP (natural masters of living in the now) by remembering your bad experiences from the past (painful exercise not for the feeble of heart). You can see how you can recall every little detail as if you are watching a HD movie inside your mind. When you try to remember you happy memories the images or movies tend not to be so clear and you usually can't remember the whole process.

My guess is some ENTPs appear shy and reserved in many situations because of the hidden force of Se, whose energy remained unreleased. When the energy is released the problem will naturally disappear.

Another possibility is Ti takes on too big of a role. Ti concerns logic and sometimes can't understand the awesomeness of Ne. This function is what makes a lot of ENTPs look like INTP. But you are not an INTP if you don't have a tendency to show disrespect for feeling.

[tanstaafl28]

Beebe model:

Understanding the Archetypes involving the eight functions of type (Beebe model)

Sorry guys if by just reading the description of the process of that shadow function you actually started to see certain horrifying images which reminded you of that special episode in your childhood which might have scarred you for life. But if this indeed happened it should be good news for you, because it meant you really are an ENTP instead of some ENTP wannabe.

Back in college there were a few occasions where I suddenly became furious towards my roommates and threatened them with all kind of evil things just because they said certain words or behaved in a certain way which made me feel like I was reliving my crazy memories again. Every time I would feel bad and apologize to them afterwards, but what I was never able to figure out was why I was so easily provoked by some small and insignificant stuff.

Se is actually a very powerful function which can in a large measure determine who you are and the path you take later in life. The only way to own it, according to Jung, is to fully experience the emotions associated with the bad memories. Ignore it or, more stupidly, suppress it is the best way to ensure those painful experiences will haunt you for life.

Jung also said Ne feels just like Se, both of them are a process of establishing relations with objects by sensation. The only difference is Se pays close attention while Ne mainly looks for patterns. Ne users like ENTP or ENFP can get a glimpse into the lives of Se users like ESTP or ESFP (natural masters of living in the now) by remembering your bad experiences from the past (painful exercise not for the feeble of heart). You can see how you can recall every little detail as if you are watching a HD movie inside your mind. When you try to remember you happy memories the images or movies tend not to be so clear and you usually can't remember the whole process.

My guess is some ENTPs appear shy and reserved in many situations because of the hidden force of Se, whose energy remained unreleased. When the energy is released the problem will naturally disappear.

Another possibility is Ti takes on too big of a role. Ti concerns logic and sometimes can't understand the awesomeness of Ne. This function is what makes a lot of ENTPs look like INTP. But you are not an INTP if you don't have a tendency to show disrespect for feeling.

FUBAR, if that hasn't happened to me too! Set off by something that does not seem worth a meltdown. Seems to happen to me about once every 3 months, or so.

[sighcantthinkofaname]

For me it's situational.
I've noticed I'm more likely to talk to a new person if I'm surrounded by people I already like. If I'm in a group of friends I'll talk to a new person before they talk to me. However if I'm in a situation where I know no one I'll typically sit quietly by myself.
I think it may be as simple as being a the mind-set to talk to people. If I feel like talking and the new person clearly doesn't I'll feel sort of awkward, and can't zone out as easily.

You also seem to be talking about not starting conversations with existing friends. That I'm not as good at if we don't have a class together. At most I'll send them a link or something on skype to start a conversation. I'm just typically fine alone, so even though I enjoy talking to other people I rarely seek it out.

[Raingembow]

Basically everything in this thread is the reason why I used to always test as an INTP.

[the3rdpower]

Alcohol + mouth
"Let me introduce you to my friend called intuition... you are going to like this friend a lot and want to take it home and keep it."

Work + mouth
"Let me introduce you to my friend called razzle dazzle mouthcapades.... you are going to want to listen closely to these words."

Stranger + Mouth
"Hi... my name is shy guy..."

[gingertonic]

i've always struggled with social anxiety, even going back to early grade school. I was always worried that my "friends" weren't actually my friends and as a result i've always been very distant until i feel confident in relationships. I'm really not a very shy person - i can be very outgoing and friendly... if i'm comfortable. my instinctual first reaction to new social situations is almost always gut-wrenching terror that i have to wrestle with and get under control. so if you see me at a party or in a group of new people and i'm not being very talkative or engaging, i'm probably just trying to get the "omg i'm going to shit my pants" feeling under control.

whether or not i can explain this to people and keep them from leaving is an entirely different story.

[OokySpooky]

I became much more quiet after realizing that not all strangers are amused by argumentative class clowns.

[b90]

I became much more quiet after realizing that not all strangers are amused by argumentative class clowns.

About a year ago, after discussing silly nonsense for about 20 minutes, for the nth time with one of the other guys who reside at the computer lab where I sat writing my bachelors assignment, he finally had enough and told me he was tired of the constant bickering and discussions, and if I didn't agree, I should just shut up.

This came as quite a shock to me, because even though arguments were flying high and low, and the tone sometimes got a little bit heated, I thought it was all in good fun.

Turns out it always annoyed him. Which really confuses me even more, seeing as we had been doing this sort of thing for the better part of one and a half year. He's just an extremely non confrontational guy, so it took him a long time, and a lot of pushing, to get to the point where he was able to finally come clean about it.