[gingertonic]

I'm not going to comment any more than this:



I fucking hate ignorant people so much that I often lose control of myself and act ignorantly in response.

[Extraverted Delusion]

Lack of foresight/intuition. This one, by a long shot. People who cannot understand the fundamentals of greater objectives and only focus on the immediacy of the small things. This applies to people who get offended for you being unemotional in quick-thinking situations, not seeing potential problems ahead, and taking a commonly-traveled route and applying that logic to everything in life with no flexibility whatsoever. For example, I gave a store owner a suggestion in an Espresso shop about the idle cashier that was sitting at the end of the order line. The register was in an awkward, nearly invisible location and the attendant did not even provide some sort of verbal reminder to the customers in line which completely overlooked the opportunity to get cashed out faster. Was I upset with the employee? Yes, partially, but the store owner told me "Since when did you become store manager?"

Are. you. kidding. me. You have the responsibilities of running an elite coffee shop and you cannot take an objective statement from a patron without being offended? Die in a fire, please, just keel over and cease to exist.

Abrasive/assertive, low-IQ people. I'm really irked by those who stick to their guns highly while lacking any depth or a mental capacity worth it's weight in gold. Some of the meeker individuals who possess a gentle demeanor and mean no harm are not as troublesome, but most ENTPs have problems with those who don't understand what they are talking about. We hate having to explain ourselves in detail -- and we forget after the first time its said!

Type-8s who are not ENTPs. Although potentially useful allies, they bring about absolutely no enrichment to our lives. ENTPs may associate with the typical Type A/Pseudo-Sociopathic control freak, yet we are absolutely maniacal with our humor and love to bend the rules. Nothing's worse than an attempt at delegation from another Type 8. No.

Sports groupthink. No explanation necessary. A little bit of an offshoot of the abrasive low-IQ population, although specific.

People who follow the rulebook. This is especially frustrating when these people believe they will find salvation from some invisible deity in the sky that will reward them for their moral toils with society, and then cry that nothing is fair when they are wronged. IMHO, most elites bend rules to achieve their objectives. Although this may be particularly easier for someone else to get ahead, its no fun when they are your friends.

[Extraverted Delusion]

INTJs. Just. INTJs. Once they have an answer, they stick to it like glue, even when it is absolutely disproven, they stick to it.

So, other than picking on INTJs, because they aren't all bad people, the general trait of closed-mindedness drives me nuts. And certainty in issues of politics and religion. Atheists (of the Richard Dawkins variety) and fundamentalists alike are obnoxious.

INTJs are awesome.

INTPs are way more anal and inflexible. Although the former are a little more linear, you have to commend them on their ability to literally "construct" their understanding behind any form of assertion, statement, theory etc. Ni + Te depth is unmatched by other combinations of functions, as if understanding something is not just combining truth with truth and deducing negatives, rather, associating an entire web of data and rhythmically blending it together to solidify said position. To INTPs, appealing to the objective with a consistent logical basis (Ti + Si) is of utmost importance, and not a true reflection of their persona, rather, their messenger status that's married to reason and truth. To INTJs, appealing to the objective with a logical basis doesn't only exist at times, rather, manifests itself as "quality control" for the implementation of converse explanations which could be seen as a completely revamped system outside of what actually exists. The lack of sensing truly gives the INTJ much more imagination and malleability to understanding things that they "should" understand realistically -- making a great compadre for an ENTP as we are somewhat similar.

Are INTPs lacking in inquisitiveness? No, but they are usually going to cover their (logical) bases prior to pursuing an explanation. INTJs find reason in what isn't, INTPs find reason in what is. INTJ's Ni + Fi does not have reservations pursuing "nonsense" ideas and making sense of them, wheras Ti is very dismissive of such.

Are INTPs wittier? Yeah, a lot. I have yet to find an INTJ that's actually hilarious.... it just must be the Ni + Fi that I'm not picking up on lol.

[INTJellectual]

INTJs. Just. INTJs. Once they have an answer, they stick to it like glue, even when it is absolutely disproven, they stick to it.

So, other than picking on INTJs, because they aren't all bad people, the general trait of closed-mindedness drives me nuts. And certainty in issues of politics and religion. Atheists (of the Richard Dawkins variety) and fundamentalists alike are obnoxious.

I smiled at this one. What specifically were you and and that INTJ arguing about? Some types can really be closed-minded not just the INTJ. Closed-mindedness is a character flaw not a type flaw.

I suddenly remember the thing which me and the English INTJ male was debating about. It was "Which is more evil, men or women?" or "Which has the more capacity to do evil? Men or women?" Of course I've chosen men, it's pretty obvious. 98% of the crime rates are done by men. It is proven by statistics worldwide. And also, I need not say men's deed throughout history. They are always the oppressor, the authoritarian, or if they are powerful, they try to oppress others who are weaker.PERIOD. But that INTJ English said that "both" have the capacity to do evil. He told me that girls there are more favored than men and he even told me that they were not being fair against men. I don't know why he's being so misogynistic, maybe he had a bad experience. He is seeing it by what he observes in his little London cave. But what I was telling him was more of a global thing and historical thing not just within some specific location. Actually to me, "men" has "more" capacity to do evil. (Okay, I don't want to stay away from main topic and I don't want to start a debate here).

When he couldn't accept my opinion, he made nasty and rude remarks. It was a debate that turned into full-blown personal argument that affected my friendship with my close friend ENTP, because that ENTP have known that INTJ male for years and I guess he, the ENTP has some reverence for that insolent INTJ male. It's the INTJ male's maladjusted behavior and rudeness that really enraged me. He probably has some imbalance in his functions, with some overusing of Te and Ni being blindfolded. It was a classic example of closed-mindedness, narrow-mindedness, and blindness to the truth, and using aggression to defend his blind opinion of women.

[dippledogdum]

Just generally people who are biased towards traditionalism I view as ignorant.

Just amazes me that people can spend their entire lives seemingly not questioning something that their parents told them as a child

[dippledogdum]

I smiled at this one. What specifically were you and and that INTJ arguing about? Some types can really be closed-minded not just the INTJ. Closed-mindedness is a character flaw not a type flaw.

I suddenly remember the thing which me and the English INTJ male was debating about. It was "Which is more evil, men or women?" or "Which has the more capacity to do evil? Men or women?" Of course I've chosen men, it's pretty obvious. 98% of the crime rates are done by men. It is proven by statistics worldwide. And also, I need not say men's deed throughout history. They are always the oppressor, the authoritarian, or if they are powerful, they try to oppress others who are weaker.PERIOD. But that INTJ English said that "both" have the capacity to do evil. He told me that girls there are more favored than men and he even told me that they were not being fair against men. I don't know why he's being so misogynistic, maybe he had a bad experience. He is seeing it by what he observes in his little London cave. But what I was telling him was more of a global thing and historical thing not just within some specific location. Actually to me, "men" has "more" capacity to do evil. (Okay, I don't want to stay away from main topic and I don't want to start a debate here).

When he couldn't accept my opinion, he made nasty and rude remarks. It was a debate that turned into full-blown personal argument that affected my friendship with my close friend ENTP, because that ENTP have known that INTJ male for years and I guess he, the ENTP has some reverence for that insolent INTJ male. It's the INTJ male's maladjusted behavior and rudeness that really enraged me. He probably has some imbalance in his functions, with some overusing of Te and Ni being blindfolded. It was a classic example of closed-mindedness, narrow-mindedness, and blindness to the truth, and using aggression to defend his blind opinion of women.

True, men have committed more evil, but who has committed more good, men or women? Probably men also, so maybe men are not more evil but just more effective at what they do?

*laughs at the idea of telling an INTJ female that men are more effective*

[gingertonic]

In the great words of Louis CK, boys do damage that is calculable in dollar amounts. Girls do damage that is calculable in hours of therapy.

And, to be honest, all you have to do is look at college greek life to confirm this.

Fraternities haze, sure. And it can be brutal. But the brutality is physical, mostly.

Sororities are disgusting. The things I've seen and been told about sorority hazing scares me. Like, is actually disturbing to me. Public masturbation with sports equipment, hours of psychological torture and abuse, just to be in a club?

Yo. Fuck. That.

[OMG WTF BRO]

l really only resent ignorance when you give someone new information and they react in a "Huh? What? That's WEIRD!'' kind of way. Shows me that they aren't curious.

But that wasn't really the question. l don't know what thread the OP is talking about. l don't know what l perceive as ignorant that isn't obviously ignorant. Ironically though, l sometimes perceive the most informed people as ignorant if you can sense that they aren't truly concerned with whatever cause their representing. Sometimes they are the most informed because they were once ignorant in the true sense of the word(but sometimes these types are truly just trying to better themselves.)

[affezwilling]

I smiled at this one. What specifically were you and and that INTJ arguing about? Some types can really be closed-minded not just the INTJ. Closed-mindedness is a character flaw not a type flaw.

I suddenly remember the thing which me and the English INTJ male was debating about. It was "Which is more evil, men or women?" or "Which has the more capacity to do evil? Men or women?" Of course I've chosen men, it's pretty obvious. 98% of the crime rates are done by men. It is proven by statistics worldwide. And also, I need not say men's deed throughout history. They are always the oppressor, the authoritarian, or if they are powerful, they try to oppress others who are weaker.PERIOD. But that INTJ English said that "both" have the capacity to do evil. He told me that girls there are more favored than men and he even told me that they were not being fair against men. I don't know why he's being so misogynistic, maybe he had a bad experience. He is seeing it by what he observes in his little London cave. But what I was telling him was more of a global thing and historical thing not just within some specific location. Actually to me, "men" has "more" capacity to do evil. (Okay, I don't want to stay away from main topic and I don't want to start a debate here).

When he couldn't accept my opinion, he made nasty and rude remarks. It was a debate that turned into full-blown personal argument that affected my friendship with my close friend ENTP, because that ENTP have known that INTJ male for years and I guess he, the ENTP has some reverence for that insolent INTJ male. It's the INTJ male's maladjusted behavior and rudeness that really enraged me. He probably has some imbalance in his functions, with some overusing of Te and Ni being blindfolded. It was a classic example of closed-mindedness, narrow-mindedness, and blindness to the truth, and using aggression to defend his blind opinion of women.

True, men have committed more evil, but who has committed more good, men or women? Probably men also, so maybe men are not more evil but just more effective at what they do?

*laughs at the idea of telling an INTJ female that men are more effective*

Is it that men have really done more good and more evil than women or is it because men in general are more objectively minded and therefore more objective in action which translates to the ability to measure their capacity for good and evil on an objective scale? Women in general are much more subjective in thought and deed and therefore their capacity for good and evil can not always be measured on the same objective scale as men might be held too.

Saying that one gender has a higher capacity for good / evil or has done more good / evil is basically the same as saying that one gender is superior / inferior to the other. What scale are you measuring it on? Physical strength? Strength of emotion? Empathy? Levelheadedness?

No matter how you slice it men and women are equally evil in different ways and they're both just as annoying and sucktastic as the other!

[dippledogdum]

Is it that men have really done more good and more evil than women or is it because men in general are more objectively minded and therefore more objective in action which translates to the ability to measure their capacity for good and evil on an objective scale? Women in general are much more subjective in thought and deed and therefore their capacity for good and evil can not always be measured on the same objective scale as men might be held too.

Saying that one gender has a higher capacity for good / evil or has done more good / evil is basically the same as saying that one gender is superior / inferior to the other. What scale are you measuring it on? Physical strength? Strength of emotion? Empathy? Levelheadedness?

No matter how you slice it men and women are equally evil in different ways and they're both just as annoying and sucktastic as the other!

Technically chimpanzees are responsible for all of the evil in the world since if they hadn't reproduced we wouldn't have evolved from them causing evil.