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This is a discussion on What is it that ENTPs (and similar types) perceive as ignorance in difference types within the ENTP Forum- The Visionaries forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by Kairos This, definitely this. People saying "I can't get a good job because I don't an university ...
Ignorance is always fine, I understand not knowing things. Dullness is annoying, but forgivable (S types give me this sometimes).
Lack of any curiosity in any topic is where I start to use ignorant in the sense of stupid.
As an entp, though, competence is important. if you don't have faith in someone's competence, it's hard to get over that. Avoidance is a possibility, but better is probably acceptance that not everyone will feel like they're at you level.
What is acceptance when it lacks humility? An irritant is something which negatively affects you. Faith isn't necessarily involved in acceptance, either. Love for the self includes peace from toxic views of others.
Basically, there are no levels. And understand that many people may disagree with you on the fact that there should be.
What "level" does one consider his or herself to be on, anyway? Are we speaking of faithless enlightenment?
Arrogance with no justification angers me to no end. Also closed-mindedness. Shallowness. Taking positions without understanding. Irrational judgments. Overreaction. I could go on...
People who refuse to realize the fact that other people are not always the problem.
No problem with ignorance. Being aware of one's own ignorance is a knowledge resulting from intelligence. Confusing ignorance and stupidity is an ignorance resulting from stupidity. Though I don't care about others stupidity as long as they're stupid enough to not believe that they're intelligent.
As others have said it's not ignorance that annoys me, it's failure to learn. When people fail to learn from mistakes it makes me just want to hit them across the back of their forehead with a clue-by-four! I'm perfectly comfortable in admitting my ignorance in a matter, it's far better in my book than to pretend to be knowledgeable of something which you're not. Hell, sometimes I make it a point to be intentionally ignorant of things. Plausible deniability can be a powerful tool, the trick is in knowing when it's better to become knowledgeable of the facts and when it's better to stay ignorant of them.
Closed-mindness and inability to see logic when right in front of them
(yup, that covers both the Ne and Ti)
Ignorance bothers me, but at the same time I understand that real, honest-to-god ignorance really can't be blamed on the individual because, by definition, ignorance is not realizing what you don't know. Can you really blame Plato's cave people for not knowing what they're missing out on? What bugs me isn't true, pure ignorance. It's the type of ignorance where people realize they don't know and then are content to leave it at that, which is what I think most people are really talking about. Using Plato's cave analogy, it's like the aforementioned cave people being released from their chains and told that there is a world outside of the cave, and them deciding to stay in the cave and watch the shadows instead.