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This is a discussion on ENTP: Lying? within the ENTP Forum- The Visionaries forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; What are your ENTP experiences of lying? I know that we proportionally are more dishonest than other types, whether you ...

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    ENTP: Lying?

    What are your ENTP experiences of lying? I know that we proportionally are more dishonest than other types, whether you agree with the behaviour or not. So I'm interested on why you lie, how you do it so well, and when do you do it (any restrictions?)



    For me it's like acting. I think I've read that ENTP's make good actors. But my mental strategy is literally like that - I just assume the mentality of a person who is being truthful. So e.g., let's say I took something of someone's. When confronted, I just set my mind in a state as if I actually hadn't done it. Because I know how I'd be feeling if I hadn't done it, so I just use that state of mind. This way I can totally convincingly keep lies going for as long as I want, without ever having to think about it.

    And the notion that lying is bad doesn't rationally make sense to me. I mean yeah, of course if you're lied to and you find out, you'll be pissed, and pissed at yourself for not realizing the truth. But that's kind of on you. And it isn't really very harmful anyways. Situations where your words will make a real difference - like something I could actually care about - are rare. So at the end of the day I think I think of things on a waaaaayy bigger scale than others can relate to.
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    Now all I'm thinking about is whether my entp boyfriend has ever cheated on me....

    i know he'd be able to keep it the best secret.

    maybe i shouldn't have read this thread, silly ideas....

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    Because I don't really have a lot of emotions, I'm pretty much always "acting," as you say; I often don't know the difference between what I actually feel and what I'm just making up to fill the emotional void. Sometimes, everyday lying happens similarly: I can't explain something, so my mind creates its own rationalized explanation for it. Sometimes my explanations are not so true, but I don't really lie purposefully. It just happens.
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    I used to lie quite a bit, and I know I am rather good at it. The way I lie is also pretty much 'acting' and in fact I keep a few reoccurring characters if I need a lie to be presented with a certain personality. I don't lie much anymore though, because I'm don't like taking responsibility for other peoples idiocy. If I misinform someone, even with just a little white lie, any decision they make using that misinformation will be partially because of me. If they have the truth as far as I know it, any stupidity on their part is theirs alone.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I only ever lie about being a liar

    Honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agokcen View Post
    Because I don't really have a lot of emotions, I'm pretty much always "acting," as you say; I often don't know the difference between what I actually feel and what I'm just making up to fill the emotional void. Sometimes, everyday lying happens similarly: I can't explain something, so my mind creates its own rationalized explanation for it. Sometimes my explanations are not so true, but I don't really lie purposefully. It just happens.
    Wow... tell me, do you all play soccer and love reading too? (just checking to make sure you're not all versions of me running around)

    That and just about everything said. If I'm lying I just alter my belief of what is reality. I don't really make a conscience thought about what i'm doing, it just... happens. It's like reality really ceases to exist and becomes what i want it to...if that makes much sense. Though I don't consciously lie much... I don't think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyoness View Post
    Wow... tell me, do you all play soccer and love reading too? (just checking to make sure you're not all versions of me running around)

    That and just about everything said. If I'm lying I just alter my belief of what is reality. I don't really make a conscience thought about what i'm doing, it just... happens. It's like reality really ceases to exist and becomes what i want it to...if that makes much sense. Though I don't consciously lie much... I don't think.

    Well, I used to play soccer... It's good to know, at least, that I'm not the only one for whom lying is such a confusing and yet constant thing...

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    ENTP - The Visionaries


    Quote Originally Posted by Lyoness View Post
    It's like reality really ceases to exist and becomes what i want it to...if that makes much sense. Though I don't consciously lie much... I don't think.
    as adam savage from mythbusters (awesome ENTP) once said:

    Last edited by Cthulhu; 03-04-2010 at 09:55 PM. Reason: i dropped my bong.....bong water...everywhere....fuck..
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    I'm just wondering why entp's are such great liers... did i spell that wrong? (lyers)? idk lol

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Li(a)rs.

    Grammar police.
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